1 00:00:44,299 --> 00:00:41,569 another episode of hero paranormal to us 2 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:44,309 off on another episode of hero 3 00:00:49,279 --> 00:00:46,770 paranormal podcast i am ryan the 4 00:00:52,279 --> 00:00:49,289 original outlaw of the airwaves bringing 5 00:00:54,889 --> 00:00:52,289 you this podcast just south of area 51 6 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:54,899 la madre mountain at the base of it 7 00:01:00,740 --> 00:00:57,690 coming to you live and direct and 8 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:00,750 joining us from south carolina 9 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:03,090 Kendall Welton the director of 10 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:05,970 photography among many other things on a 11 00:01:12,679 --> 00:01:09,720 project called the house in-between the 12 00:01:16,219 --> 00:01:12,689 project is available on Amazon I have to 13 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:16,229 say it hits on so many areas that have 14 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:18,840 similarities to locations I'm fascinated 15 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:21,450 with like shapeshifter territory in 16 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:24,710 northeastern Utah or Sedona Arizona 17 00:01:31,999 --> 00:01:28,890 Kanab Utah four corners Shiprock etc the 18 00:01:35,899 --> 00:01:32,009 film delves 10 times deeper than 19 00:01:38,660 --> 00:01:35,909 anything I've seen on the subject matter 20 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:38,670 and does so in a very professional not 21 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:42,930 hyped not dramatis eyes way Kendall is 22 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:46,409 owner and founder at robot Ninja media 23 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:49,680 director of photography at pilgrim media 24 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:53,310 group and has rocked the paranormal 25 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:54,450 world in my opinion 26 00:02:00,620 --> 00:01:57,090 with the veracity honesty transparency 27 00:02:05,020 --> 00:02:00,630 and video evidence caught in a long-term 28 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:05,030 project now available on Amazon and 29 00:02:10,279 --> 00:02:08,160 worth watching I know I'm gonna watch it 30 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:10,289 many many times 31 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:13,770 Kendall the paranormal person 32 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:16,770 achieve er man you made me a believer 33 00:02:22,570 --> 00:02:19,590 welcome to the hero paranormal podcast 34 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:22,580 hey Ryan how's it going it's going great 35 00:02:29,150 --> 00:02:25,680 man you you were director of photography 36 00:02:31,010 --> 00:02:29,160 on the project and also the 37 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:31,020 illustrations were great I have to say 38 00:02:36,230 --> 00:02:34,110 epic job there there's so much that is 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:36,240 going on in this I want to I want to be 40 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:38,130 fair and say how did you get involved in 41 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:39,810 this and and what were your thoughts 42 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:43,200 yeah yeah so um you know a few years 43 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:47,460 back I started robot Ninja media which 44 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:49,970 is a production company my wife Farah 45 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:53,840 and I I started we wanted to start doing 46 00:02:59,390 --> 00:02:57,630 documentaries and in branded content you 47 00:03:02,600 --> 00:02:59,400 know for many many years I've been doing 48 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:02,610 some documentary TV for other companies 49 00:03:06,650 --> 00:03:04,530 and kind of wanted to branch out and 50 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:06,660 start spreading my wings a little bit 51 00:03:13,070 --> 00:03:09,630 and just at that same time we had 52 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:13,080 started a few months later my good 53 00:03:20,570 --> 00:03:15,720 friend and co-worker from Ghost Hunters 54 00:03:22,430 --> 00:03:20,580 Steve Gonzalez gave me a call and he had 55 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,440 yet said you know we were catching up 56 00:03:27,410 --> 00:03:24,480 and he had said hey I you know I got 57 00:03:31,010 --> 00:03:27,420 this house that's really really just 58 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:31,020 interesting there's a lot going on at 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:33,270 this house and right there I was like 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:35,250 wait a minute you've had an experience 61 00:03:41,530 --> 00:03:38,490 there and he's like yeah I actually did 62 00:03:44,270 --> 00:03:41,540 a few times and in for Steve to have an 63 00:03:45,949 --> 00:03:44,280 experience that's that's quite quite a 64 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:45,959 lot because I followed Steve for many 65 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:48,150 many years and you know I can count on 66 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:50,010 my hand the number of experiences he's 67 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:54,810 had and you know his credibility in the 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:03:57,330 in the paranormal field just speaks you 69 00:04:02,870 --> 00:04:00,810 know numbers here and and so I I said 70 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:02,880 let's do it you know we agreed on doing 71 00:04:08,210 --> 00:04:06,660 a meeting with with Alice and John and 72 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:08,220 Brad Alice's the owner 73 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:10,530 the home owner of the house that all 74 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:13,200 this activity is happening and you know 75 00:04:19,070 --> 00:04:15,360 they got to tell their story on this 76 00:04:20,630 --> 00:04:19,080 meeting and right away I just had felt 77 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:20,640 that there was something different going 78 00:04:26,110 --> 00:04:23,580 on here than the normal haunting that 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:26,120 I've seen you know Ronnie and I've been 80 00:04:32,110 --> 00:04:29,210 part of probably 700 investigations in 81 00:04:34,719 --> 00:04:32,120 my career as director of photography for 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:34,729 ghost hunters and ghost brothers and 83 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:37,130 Ghost Hunters Academy and you know this 84 00:04:43,090 --> 00:04:38,960 house where they add something different 85 00:04:46,030 --> 00:04:43,100 to it it just it was just different and 86 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:46,040 you know that shortly after after our 87 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:48,710 phone call Steven I dove headfirst into 88 00:04:54,159 --> 00:04:51,680 the project and we we really just 89 00:04:57,070 --> 00:04:54,169 started to start getting the the the 90 00:04:58,750 --> 00:04:57,080 ground shoot ready and and yeah the 91 00:05:01,750 --> 00:04:58,760 documentary kind of started after that 92 00:05:04,180 --> 00:05:01,760 phone call it is so cool with that 93 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:04,190 statement enclosed I'm like it the 94 00:05:07,629 --> 00:05:06,470 reality of this it brings up so many 95 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:07,639 questions okay 96 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:14,110 the the opening scene is is something of 97 00:05:19,390 --> 00:05:16,639 just a typical I mean it's a door 98 00:05:22,510 --> 00:05:19,400 opening in perfect light no strings 99 00:05:24,730 --> 00:05:22,520 mirrors smoke etc the real deal raw 100 00:05:28,330 --> 00:05:24,740 footage right out of the gate and OBS 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:28,340 and then in the film these people that 102 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:30,650 you wouldn't expect to be you know 103 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:33,919 speaking this way of the home as if as 104 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:35,810 if it was a living entity in ways that 105 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:40,370 are telling the one man says I believe 106 00:05:44,860 --> 00:05:42,560 there's there's something that lets you 107 00:05:46,690 --> 00:05:44,870 know it's there another says it really 108 00:05:49,870 --> 00:05:46,700 grabbed me it's got its hooks into me 109 00:05:53,469 --> 00:05:49,880 and I think it's Alice the woman who was 110 00:05:55,719 --> 00:05:53,479 in the home said she just wanted a kind 111 00:05:59,409 --> 00:05:55,729 of a simple existence and the house 112 00:06:01,120 --> 00:05:59,419 reminds me a lot of not to go on at the 113 00:06:03,610 --> 00:06:01,130 separate direction a lot of a home I had 114 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:03,620 to leave but yeah I get it 115 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:05,930 she had the house subcontracted if I'm 116 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:08,240 not mistaken and I think that goes to 117 00:06:13,719 --> 00:06:10,490 show it really doesn't matter the age of 118 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:13,729 the home a memory that was beyond wild 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:16,849 was the deadbolt in the door like I said 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:18,410 I have so many questions but going back 121 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:21,050 to the particular instance this could be 122 00:06:26,260 --> 00:06:23,510 more of an area type of a haunting 123 00:06:29,860 --> 00:06:26,270 correct yeah yeah so you know you got 124 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:29,870 multiple things that are happening here 125 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:34,430 you know a decade worth of investigation 126 00:06:39,570 --> 00:06:37,780 at the house from John and Brad and 127 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:39,580 you know a compilation of all their 128 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:43,210 evidence and you got it you got to 129 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:44,740 scratch your head at some of this 130 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:47,950 evidence because you know it it's plain 131 00:06:55,490 --> 00:06:50,820 as day like you said it's just there and 132 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:55,500 you know it's it's really great evidence 133 00:07:01,850 --> 00:06:58,930 you know the house is interesting it's 134 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:01,860 you know it's an a-frame structure it's 135 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:04,930 it's beautiful in the day you go you 136 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:07,120 drive up and you know there's there's 137 00:07:11,790 --> 00:07:09,700 flowers and trees and you know the house 138 00:07:14,730 --> 00:07:11,800 is just you pull in and it just feels 139 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:14,740 great you just want to want to go right 140 00:07:19,770 --> 00:07:16,810 in and you know you get in there and 141 00:07:24,090 --> 00:07:19,780 it's it's it's different inside you know 142 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:24,100 Alice's Alice's decoration it's really 143 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:29,280 homey and she's got she's got personal 144 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:32,530 pictures from from people that she's 145 00:07:39,450 --> 00:07:34,720 worked with over the years and there's a 146 00:07:42,659 --> 00:07:39,460 lot of like a lot of really meaningful 147 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:42,669 artwork and everything's got a story or 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:46,300 a meaning to it and the house itself was 149 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:49,690 built in the 90s its Alice's Dream Home 150 00:07:57,630 --> 00:07:54,010 she had a built from scratch uh Alice 151 00:08:00,630 --> 00:07:57,640 you know her story started there she she 152 00:08:02,670 --> 00:08:00,640 bought the land and and she started 153 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:02,680 building her dream home and right away 154 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:05,770 things started happening so you know the 155 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:08,800 film dived into it what is it is it the 156 00:08:13,770 --> 00:08:11,560 land you know you should see the see the 157 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:13,780 film because there's there's a lot going 158 00:08:20,090 --> 00:08:17,530 on there and and and you know we as the 159 00:08:24,029 --> 00:08:20,100 filmmaker Steve and I really wanted to 160 00:08:26,190 --> 00:08:24,039 follow what it's like for somebody to go 161 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:26,200 through a haunting you know somebody 162 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:30,700 that owns a house that is uh haunted so 163 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:34,150 you know we we just we just rolled 164 00:08:39,779 --> 00:08:37,000 cameras on on Alice Brad and John story 165 00:08:42,329 --> 00:08:39,789 and and what we got was way more than 166 00:08:45,380 --> 00:08:42,339 what we thought we were going in for it 167 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:45,390 was just I mean we started filming and 168 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:48,430 Steve and I are just kind of like wow 169 00:08:51,650 --> 00:08:49,560 this is different 170 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:51,660 even even some of the guys you know our 171 00:08:57,370 --> 00:08:54,240 crew just amazing on the ground there 172 00:09:02,720 --> 00:08:57,380 the film the film crew that we had uh 173 00:09:06,230 --> 00:09:02,730 you know filming at Alice's for for the 174 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:06,240 shoot they were just you know we 175 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:07,920 hand-picked them there they're people 176 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:10,710 that have worked in the the ghost world 177 00:09:15,290 --> 00:09:13,170 for many many many years we wanted a 178 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:15,300 small footprint we knew it was a very 179 00:09:20,450 --> 00:09:17,430 personal story so we had to have you 180 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:20,460 know people that that understood the 181 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:23,790 paranormal and you know a lot of a lot 182 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:25,830 of our crew even said wow you know our 183 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:28,260 sound guy Mike t-bolts he he's like man 184 00:09:33,290 --> 00:09:31,290 this is this is different this is this 185 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:33,300 is really really interesting you know 186 00:09:39,290 --> 00:09:36,240 this is a different story here and I 187 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:39,300 feel like we captured that along the way 188 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:42,390 of our journey van you know it was it 189 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:44,250 was definitely an interesting one 190 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:45,930 something different than I'm used to 191 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:48,930 used to documenting you know and and and 192 00:09:55,340 --> 00:09:51,360 we just just had a really great time 193 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:55,350 doing it yeah it is epic epic movie sir 194 00:10:00,829 --> 00:09:59,130 and Alice I like that she said the house 195 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:00,839 had a lot of activity and she just kind 196 00:10:07,130 --> 00:10:03,930 of made peace with it until about 2011 197 00:10:09,020 --> 00:10:07,140 and without getting into much of the 198 00:10:11,570 --> 00:10:09,030 movie can you just kind of explain how 199 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:11,580 there was a I guess a research or what 200 00:10:15,140 --> 00:10:14,250 pushed her out of the home because a lot 201 00:10:17,090 --> 00:10:15,150 of people are like oh it's another 202 00:10:20,270 --> 00:10:17,100 haunted house story and it's really not 203 00:10:23,060 --> 00:10:20,280 it there's so many additional doors that 204 00:10:26,390 --> 00:10:23,070 open and the odd descriptions 205 00:10:28,940 --> 00:10:26,400 experiences and high strangeness closely 206 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:28,950 mirror you know merging realities and 207 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:31,680 it's very blatant it's some of with 208 00:10:38,110 --> 00:10:33,890 without getting giving too much away 209 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:38,120 there was a massive change for Alice 210 00:10:44,030 --> 00:10:40,950 yeah yeah so I'm glad you're talking 211 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:44,040 about the multi dimension stuff because 212 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:45,690 you know I think we need to talk about 213 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:49,050 that a little more of that in the 214 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:52,470 paranormal you know the film touches on 215 00:10:59,510 --> 00:10:56,640 that and it's just interesting that you 216 00:11:00,530 --> 00:10:59,520 know here's Alice Alice is just one of 217 00:11:03,260 --> 00:11:00,540 the most one 218 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:03,270 for women I've met in my life she is 219 00:11:09,830 --> 00:11:06,210 just so generous and nice and and just a 220 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:09,840 just a beautiful spirit you know and and 221 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:13,290 she's so smart with you know with some 222 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:17,100 of some of the the metaphysical and some 223 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:19,590 of the paranormal it's you know it kind 224 00:11:24,260 --> 00:11:22,560 of took me back how well knowledge she 225 00:11:28,030 --> 00:11:24,270 is with you know some of these theories 226 00:11:32,570 --> 00:11:28,040 on on on some of you know 227 00:11:36,410 --> 00:11:32,580 multi-dimensional and and you know alien 228 00:11:39,850 --> 00:11:36,420 and and UFO and and and you know it just 229 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:39,860 she I think her experience that she had 230 00:11:46,450 --> 00:11:43,740 made her through a deep dive into what 231 00:11:49,130 --> 00:11:46,460 she experienced so she read up on on 232 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:49,140 everything she possibly could just to 233 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:52,110 come and figure out which what happened 234 00:11:56,390 --> 00:11:54,330 to her she she had this profound 235 00:11:59,240 --> 00:11:56,400 experience I mean everything was good uh 236 00:12:00,980 --> 00:11:59,250 in the house she lived in the house you 237 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:00,990 know we can we can say that she moved 238 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:04,170 out after this experience it was it was 239 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:07,320 major I mean she built her dream home 240 00:12:15,380 --> 00:12:11,970 and in basically was so scared of what 241 00:12:19,580 --> 00:12:15,390 happened to her one on one particular 242 00:12:23,420 --> 00:12:19,590 night um she just had to leave she had 243 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:23,430 to leave and and she wanted to know what 244 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:26,160 it was that happened to her she just 245 00:12:31,940 --> 00:12:28,680 wants to make sense of it all and you 246 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:31,950 know I don't blame her I mean she I mean 247 00:12:36,260 --> 00:12:33,570 you think about it put yourself in 248 00:12:37,970 --> 00:12:36,270 Alice's shoes here you are you spend all 249 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:37,980 this money and on a house it's your 250 00:12:42,860 --> 00:12:40,500 dream home you're living in it you have 251 00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:42,870 all your stuff in there every day you 252 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:45,390 you kind of experience these strange 253 00:12:49,610 --> 00:12:47,400 things but you kind of shrug it off and 254 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:49,620 then all sudden you have this major 255 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:52,650 event happened that's super paranormal 256 00:13:01,120 --> 00:12:57,120 and that's it you're done do you leave 257 00:13:05,090 --> 00:13:01,130 your house and you know it's it's sad 258 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:05,100 it's not right as Steve and I the 259 00:13:12,380 --> 00:13:07,970 filmmakers we were deeply deeply 260 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:12,390 invested in Alice's story Alice's case 261 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:14,410 we wanted to bring her 262 00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:17,860 so we got professionals we got some of 263 00:13:23,819 --> 00:13:20,920 the best professionals to look at some 264 00:13:27,269 --> 00:13:23,829 of the things that they captured over 265 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:27,279 the years we really wanted and needed to 266 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:29,170 you know our main focus as the 267 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:32,410 filmmakers to to get Alice answers and 268 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:35,350 you know to try to get Alice to move 269 00:13:41,189 --> 00:13:37,569 back in the house and you know the 270 00:13:45,439 --> 00:13:41,199 journey was was definitely an eye-opener 271 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:45,449 for for Alice as the documentary 272 00:13:50,699 --> 00:13:48,160 unfolded and us as the filmmakers 273 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:50,709 because you know this documentary we 274 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:52,720 would kind of followed it like a 275 00:14:00,389 --> 00:13:55,689 detective story we really just took 276 00:14:03,689 --> 00:14:00,399 every lead or every Avenue and kind of 277 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:03,699 said wow this is the most accurate that 278 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:06,399 we believe so we that's that's kind of 279 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:08,050 what made the that made the movie there 280 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:11,560 I thought it was interesting Alice you 281 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:13,209 know she didn't know what she was up 282 00:14:17,069 --> 00:14:14,800 against if this was a religious 283 00:14:18,929 --> 00:14:17,079 experience or like he mentioned a UFO 284 00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:18,939 experience in her dimension I mean she 285 00:14:23,999 --> 00:14:21,279 read up on everything 286 00:14:26,069 --> 00:14:24,009 and and the town that this took place in 287 00:14:28,110 --> 00:14:26,079 without giving the name out is a great 288 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:28,120 little town in the Bible Belt which 289 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:30,730 makes this that much more unique which 290 00:14:35,579 --> 00:14:32,800 brings about the quality of people on 291 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:35,589 this on this project someone who I 292 00:14:39,929 --> 00:14:37,870 followed and then merged into this 293 00:14:42,509 --> 00:14:39,939 project is John he's an investigator 294 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:42,519 anyway how did things go after John was 295 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:43,569 introduced to this 296 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:45,040 I think they mentioned it as the 297 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:48,430 Mississippi house in the area but this 298 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:50,079 is not this is not a short-term project 299 00:14:57,449 --> 00:14:52,089 this is super long-term this is not a 300 00:15:01,049 --> 00:14:57,459 weekend no no this isn't your typical TV 301 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:01,059 show you know go and film for you know a 302 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:03,610 few days and then you're done this is 303 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:07,240 this is heavily invested in like well 304 00:15:12,869 --> 00:15:10,540 for John years over a decade now John's 305 00:15:16,379 --> 00:15:12,879 been been documenting the house Brad 306 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:16,389 came a little later and those two really 307 00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:17,920 put their heads to the grindstone and 308 00:15:23,340 --> 00:15:19,870 man I got to give it up for those guys 309 00:15:25,079 --> 00:15:23,350 because and all also all investigators 310 00:15:27,769 --> 00:15:25,089 that investigate the paranormal because 311 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:27,779 you know your hearts are in it 312 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:29,850 you want to help people and you do it 313 00:15:35,929 --> 00:15:32,310 for free like you Britt you buy gear you 314 00:15:37,579 --> 00:15:35,939 you you're investing your time you spend 315 00:15:39,650 --> 00:15:37,589 endless hours going through evidence 316 00:15:42,860 --> 00:15:39,660 going through trying to figure it out 317 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:42,870 trying to you know your your your almost 318 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:46,800 an ear an ear and in a therapist for 319 00:15:51,980 --> 00:15:49,050 some people going through honkies it's 320 00:15:55,489 --> 00:15:51,990 just it's amazing to see you know John 321 00:15:57,499 --> 00:15:55,499 and Brad be there for for Alison in I 322 00:15:59,150 --> 00:15:57,509 feel like we really capture that in the 323 00:16:02,960 --> 00:15:59,160 film and that's something that's never 324 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:02,970 really been talked about uh as far as 325 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:05,730 the paranormal community and in and that 326 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:07,860 was that was you know a big story in 327 00:16:12,049 --> 00:16:09,930 this in the film I mean if you're going 328 00:16:13,069 --> 00:16:12,059 going to watch this film and you you 329 00:16:15,290 --> 00:16:13,079 think you're going to watch another 330 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:15,300 episode of ghost hunters or Ghost 331 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:17,370 Adventures or you know one of these one 332 00:16:22,850 --> 00:16:20,370 of these ghost hunting shows it's not 333 00:16:24,739 --> 00:16:22,860 like that so you know it's you're not 334 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:24,749 going to get your jump scares in there 335 00:16:31,009 --> 00:16:26,610 you're not going to get your you know 336 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:31,019 your your your your just everything told 337 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:32,399 to you on a silver platter 338 00:16:38,449 --> 00:16:35,040 this is a thought-provoking piece you 339 00:16:40,850 --> 00:16:38,459 know we we give you everything we give 340 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:40,860 you everything that we learned and you 341 00:16:45,259 --> 00:16:43,410 know it's just really cool to see now 342 00:16:48,309 --> 00:16:45,269 you've been after the movies been out 343 00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:48,319 what people are writing about and in 344 00:16:52,670 --> 00:16:50,399 contacting us and letting us know what 345 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:52,680 they they think is there what they think 346 00:16:57,170 --> 00:16:55,680 is going on with the home what you know 347 00:16:59,210 --> 00:16:57,180 people are even doing research and 348 00:17:01,610 --> 00:16:59,220 sending me maps and you know it's really 349 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:01,620 cool to see that we did do our homework 350 00:17:06,380 --> 00:17:03,420 because I'm getting a lot of the same 351 00:17:08,329 --> 00:17:06,390 same stuff that we we had gotten you 352 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:08,339 know that we had found out so it's just 353 00:17:13,059 --> 00:17:10,049 really neat I think this this 354 00:17:17,899 --> 00:17:13,069 documentary has really hit a spot in 355 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:17,909 people's hearts and you know in in the 356 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:20,490 field of the paranormal that that has 357 00:17:26,139 --> 00:17:23,250 never been looked at so yeah it's it's 358 00:17:29,870 --> 00:17:26,149 just suspended such a cool experience 359 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:29,880 it's hit a niche that I think needed to 360 00:17:36,649 --> 00:17:34,320 be hit it's almost tapping into another 361 00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:36,659 part of the paranormal it's almost 362 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:40,440 another world entirely and I wanted to 363 00:17:45,410 --> 00:17:41,580 discuss if it's okay 364 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:45,420 hey Brad Cooney who lives so close and 365 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:48,150 and he had activity the first day he 366 00:17:54,530 --> 00:17:51,090 visited Brad's cell phone footage is so 367 00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:54,540 high hold by the way but going along 368 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:55,440 those lines 369 00:18:01,250 --> 00:17:59,010 Brad living so close by has he had this 370 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:01,260 is kind of off from the movie because he 371 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:03,750 had anything happen where he lives has 372 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:05,790 this followed him home at all yeah so 373 00:18:12,530 --> 00:18:09,120 Brad Cooney he's an investigator that 374 00:18:17,420 --> 00:18:12,540 joined John after a few years Brad had 375 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:17,430 seen Alice's story on the news and it 376 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:21,410 intrigued him Brad had some UFO 377 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:23,580 experiences when he was in the military 378 00:18:28,340 --> 00:18:26,640 and he's so that's kind of piqued his 379 00:18:31,370 --> 00:18:28,350 perk piqued his interest in the 380 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:31,380 paranormal and you know he he thought 381 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:33,120 hey I want to see what's going on over 382 00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:35,700 at this house and you know he reached 383 00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:38,760 out and he got invited over to the 384 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:41,310 Mississippi House that's that's kind of 385 00:18:47,540 --> 00:18:44,370 his story in a nutshell and it's just I 386 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:47,550 mean it was all fake like that team was 387 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:50,070 brought together just by fate and you 388 00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:51,510 know they're they're not even a team 389 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,270 they're a family now and and you know 390 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:57,120 they call Alice Queen B and and you know 391 00:19:02,690 --> 00:18:59,760 Brad Brad is you know we've talked about 392 00:19:04,970 --> 00:19:02,700 things following people home and you 393 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:04,980 know Brad has told me that he's never 394 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:07,740 had anything follow him home from the 395 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:10,350 Mississippi house but that doesn't mean 396 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:11,970 that I've heard stories from other 397 00:19:17,150 --> 00:19:14,730 people that I believe things have 398 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:17,160 possibly followed them from the 399 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:20,730 Mississippi house you know it's it's 400 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:23,190 hard to tell because it's it's all you 401 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:25,260 know personal experiences we like to 402 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:27,930 document the experiences on camera when 403 00:19:33,020 --> 00:19:30,150 we can and when we do you know that 404 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:33,030 helps a lot because that brings a lot 405 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:36,090 more credibility to things so you know 406 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:39,270 the story's evolving here things are 407 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:42,200 still happening after the documentary 408 00:19:48,290 --> 00:19:46,320 and it's just you know the the 409 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:48,300 Mississippi house there's there's 410 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:52,410 something going on there and it it's 411 00:19:57,789 --> 00:19:55,170 just mind-boggling 412 00:20:01,910 --> 00:19:57,799 the multiple layers of things happening 413 00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:01,920 you know when I when I first started 414 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:05,790 hearing about this house from from Steve 415 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:10,290 Brad John Alice it reminded me a lot of 416 00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:14,280 something in a case or a location that 417 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:19,470 I'm deeply deeply interested in and and 418 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:23,640 that is the skinwalker ranch I just you 419 00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:25,170 know as I heard the story about 420 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:28,590 skinwalker ranch probably 1012 years ago 421 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:32,370 and ever since then I was hooked on on 422 00:20:38,030 --> 00:20:34,770 anything skinwalker just from the 423 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:38,040 stories and this is the first time that 424 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:41,210 I've heard of possible UFO activity 425 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:45,210 happening in a location alongside ghosts 426 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:48,750 and that's that's really really what 427 00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:52,770 kind of got my my radar going off with 428 00:20:59,060 --> 00:20:56,220 with how different this this case is and 429 00:21:01,580 --> 00:20:59,070 how different you know this did the 430 00:21:07,780 --> 00:21:01,590 experiences of what's going on at this 431 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:07,790 house yes and that is very very 432 00:21:14,419 --> 00:21:10,200 interesting I thought something very 433 00:21:17,330 --> 00:21:14,429 similar I absolutely love that area of 434 00:21:18,409 --> 00:21:17,340 Utah that you're mentioned and and I 435 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:18,419 thought it was really interesting that 436 00:21:24,409 --> 00:21:21,150 you used something that I've used in the 437 00:21:27,230 --> 00:21:24,419 past and others the trigger objects you 438 00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:27,240 know we put out everything from Apple's 439 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:31,080 to to sandwiches to you know things for 440 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:33,390 them to play with them oh my gosh Here I 441 00:21:38,539 --> 00:21:36,030 am calling him them yeah it's just you 442 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:38,549 know and this was also done in the film 443 00:21:44,090 --> 00:21:41,330 something similar I think you guys went 444 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:44,100 every extent you went you had 445 00:21:49,299 --> 00:21:46,500 contractors electricians etc go to the 446 00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:49,309 extent of checking the house and and and 447 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:52,140 man you had an experience yourself with 448 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:54,210 a trigger object I don't want it like 449 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:57,090 holy cow yeah I was I was intrigued by 450 00:22:02,419 --> 00:22:01,200 the way the guys answered very 451 00:22:05,030 --> 00:22:02,429 interesting you mentioned the 452 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:05,040 investigators they when they were asked 453 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:07,290 why they would be scared of the home if 454 00:22:12,510 --> 00:22:09,010 they've been there so many times 455 00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:12,520 and the response was epic because we 456 00:22:16,650 --> 00:22:14,440 know the power it has and what it's 457 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:16,660 capable of they just took it to the next 458 00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:19,750 level bringing in my opinion where it 459 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:22,060 went the direction they didn't hoard it 460 00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:22,810 for themselves 461 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:24,670 other people were brought into the mix 462 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:27,190 and I think that's important who called 463 00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:28,510 the shots or did that just kind of 464 00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:33,070 naturally happen oh you know so I got to 465 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:36,520 give credit to Alice um Alice for you 466 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:38,560 know off camera before the documentary 467 00:22:44,850 --> 00:22:41,460 she she brought in some people that uh 468 00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:44,860 that checked the level of her house many 469 00:22:51,660 --> 00:22:47,560 years before when you know some of these 470 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:51,670 things were moving and you know Alice 471 00:22:57,690 --> 00:22:55,120 kind of was was asking about certain 472 00:23:00,600 --> 00:22:57,700 people that you know she she really 473 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:00,610 wanted to talk to and you know for the 474 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:06,570 documentary Steve and I we we brought in 475 00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:09,970 you know the the the the professionals 476 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:13,240 we got Steve landed the interview with 477 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:18,580 dr. die and and you know Michael Dennin 478 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:20,470 was somebody that Alice had read his 479 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:24,250 book and and was deeply interested in 480 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:29,230 from his take on on paranormal and and 481 00:23:35,910 --> 00:23:33,130 you know just having these these experts 482 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:35,920 come into the home and and take a deeper 483 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:39,160 look at what's going on you know it just 484 00:23:44,430 --> 00:23:41,770 you got to find out what it is and you 485 00:23:47,070 --> 00:23:44,440 know if it is a faulty light switch or 486 00:23:50,610 --> 00:23:47,080 if it's you know a broken step or if 487 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:50,620 it's you know some some some kind of 488 00:23:54,090 --> 00:23:52,570 maybe there's maybe there's chemicals in 489 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:54,100 the house you know Steve and I went in 490 00:23:59,850 --> 00:23:57,130 and did an extensive search on that on 491 00:24:01,530 --> 00:23:59,860 the home and it we we really want to 492 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:01,540 find out what's going on so we can bring 493 00:24:07,050 --> 00:24:04,450 that piece to Alice you know that's the 494 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:07,060 number one goal and if we if we found 495 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:10,750 out I mean I'll tell you here Ryan you 496 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:12,250 know Steven I didn't know what we're 497 00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:14,410 getting into we we started the 498 00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:16,180 documentary and it was just kind of like 499 00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:18,580 well you know we don't know Brad Alice 500 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:21,430 and John we have a good feeling about 501 00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:21,910 that 502 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:24,040 but you know we're gonna have to do our 503 00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:26,260 homework once we get there and in you 504 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:28,030 know we got the week the first day of 505 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:30,010 filming you know we got their boots on 506 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:32,470 the ground Steve and I had to do a sweep 507 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:33,940 of the house to make sure you know 508 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,130 there's no funny business going on 509 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:37,840 because that's Steven eyes credibility 510 00:24:42,990 --> 00:24:39,730 here we are we're about to invest our 511 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:43,000 time and resources and efforts and you 512 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:45,610 know no-sleep everything that goes into 513 00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:48,040 filmmaking for the next few months if 514 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:50,470 not a year so you know and we want to 515 00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:52,150 know what's going on in the house and if 516 00:24:56,790 --> 00:24:53,920 that is true we are gonna tell that 517 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:56,800 story so you know we did our sweep of 518 00:25:01,560 --> 00:24:59,440 the house and you are surprised there 519 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:01,570 was no wires there was nothing going on 520 00:25:06,090 --> 00:25:03,810 there was no you know obvious 521 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:06,100 explanations for some you know the 522 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:08,770 multiple things going on there so so you 523 00:25:13,890 --> 00:25:11,050 know it got Steve's Steve's stamp of 524 00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:13,900 approval so you know and then you know I 525 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:16,630 you know I I've been alongside Steve for 526 00:25:22,530 --> 00:25:19,570 many many years so I too have had that I 527 00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:22,540 and you know the both of us kind of said 528 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:25,120 holy cow you know this is these guys 529 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:26,770 aren't pulling the wool over eyes so I 530 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:30,400 guess we're we're gonna you know try to 531 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:32,890 you know try to figure out this through 532 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:34,630 through contractors and through 533 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:36,970 electricians anything that we saw pop up 534 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:40,570 and you know when we saw the evidence if 535 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:42,490 we're like well they could have done it 536 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:45,400 with this so that's what we implemented 537 00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:48,010 you know if if this happened you know 538 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:50,230 they say something happens in the house 539 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:53,830 well you know let's talk to this person 540 00:25:58,380 --> 00:25:55,690 and see if there's a logical explanation 541 00:26:02,190 --> 00:25:58,390 for it so we that's that's the approach 542 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:02,200 we took I mean I think a lot of ghost 543 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:04,330 stuff and you know paranormal stuff done 544 00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:07,330 so essentially sensationalized you know 545 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:09,700 this is the first time we really wanted 546 00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:12,330 to just kind of say hey you know like 547 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:15,880 let's just step back here and and and 548 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:18,310 think about this a little more and think 549 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:21,490 about this evidence and see see what it 550 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:24,250 possibly could be from a different angle 551 00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:26,890 and you know what we we really kept the 552 00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:29,560 skeptics in mind I mean myself I'm 553 00:26:35,730 --> 00:26:33,460 skeptic I'm a skeptical believer I I 554 00:26:38,639 --> 00:26:35,740 kind of call myself a skeptical believer 555 00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,649 I've had many experiences happen to me 556 00:26:43,049 --> 00:26:40,720 now house over the last few years so I'm 557 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:43,059 more on the believer side but he's so 558 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:44,890 skeptic I mean he's pretty hardcore 559 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:49,710 skeptic and you know we we had a skeptic 560 00:26:55,409 --> 00:26:52,690 editor a lot of our career skeptics so 561 00:26:58,169 --> 00:26:55,419 you know we have to we have to to see 562 00:27:00,080 --> 00:26:58,179 both sides as a documentary we're just 563 00:27:03,299 --> 00:27:00,090 telling the truth we just want to see 564 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:03,309 what the story is and in the story let 565 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:05,320 the story shine and and you know we went 566 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:07,720 in there and and that's that was our 567 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:10,090 goal all along so you have the skeptic 568 00:27:14,490 --> 00:27:12,610 side and then you have the believer side 569 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:14,500 and you know we started out the whole 570 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:17,890 documentary with Miss Mary Alice who is 571 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:20,890 just the most beautiful soul asking her 572 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:23,470 if she believed in ghosts and you know 573 00:27:29,730 --> 00:27:27,000 she she she's awesome 574 00:27:32,460 --> 00:27:29,740 yeah they it's so cool 575 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:32,470 that I believe it was Steve there was 576 00:27:36,899 --> 00:27:34,450 kind of a kind of an off-camera yet 577 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:36,909 filmed moment where you kind of asked 578 00:27:40,289 --> 00:27:37,929 him straight up like what do you think 579 00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:40,299 is going on and if you don't want to be 580 00:27:42,990 --> 00:27:41,620 saying so he's like I think it's a hell 581 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:43,000 it's like you know let's get to the 582 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:44,860 bottom of it it was so cool yeah uh 583 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:47,110 uh-oh that moment that we're talking 584 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:50,890 about is you know it was just so wrong 585 00:28:01,260 --> 00:27:56,799 and so just just amazing to see Steve 586 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:01,270 pop into his just detective investigator 587 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:03,490 I love that part that you're talking 588 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:06,250 about because that is like just the 589 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:09,760 Steve that that I've seen for many years 590 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:12,130 that you know sometimes gets edited out 591 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:15,850 of TV and it's just you see these we you 592 00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:18,190 know the the gears grinding like what 593 00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:20,799 that well was that what happened there 594 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:23,679 and and you know it was really cool to 595 00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:25,570 see his thinking process and that's 596 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:27,220 Steve that was Steven the raw that was 597 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:29,740 all of us in the raw it was it was just 598 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:31,720 an awesome moment for the film and for 599 00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:35,440 for me you know and working with Brad 600 00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:38,980 and John and Alice and and Steve is just 601 00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:41,590 a was it was a really cool moment there 602 00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:43,960 the whole film was a lot of fun to do 603 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,169 and yeah there's a lot of lot of moments 604 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:49,360 like that too that we 605 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:52,720 add on camera that didn't get used a lot 606 00:28:57,660 --> 00:28:55,840 of fun moments in the film maybe we 607 00:28:59,700 --> 00:28:57,670 maybe we do another cut later or 608 00:29:02,940 --> 00:28:59,710 something to give some more of that 609 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:02,950 because because yeah it's just it's just 610 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,970 really cool to to document something and 611 00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:08,880 be able to have the freedom to kind of 612 00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:12,520 kind of have AB moments and not worry 613 00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:14,679 about a format and just you know 614 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:16,990 documentary is so freeing and creative 615 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:19,210 and and I you know I think that's 616 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,470 another success for us yeah the the the 617 00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:25,360 lengths that you went like like you 618 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:27,820 mentioned you got scientists involved 619 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:29,290 you were looking at water aspects 620 00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:30,730 underground moving water 621 00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:32,740 I mean marine dinosaurs found in the 622 00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:34,900 area you definitely didn't leave it any 623 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:38,500 stones untouched perhaps there's more to 624 00:29:43,169 --> 00:29:41,470 it and and an older lady without going 625 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:43,179 again I'm it's so hard not to give too 626 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:43,570 much away 627 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:45,850 she lived nearby she saw something 628 00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:47,770 similar let's just say similar a light 629 00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:50,500 that was bright as the Sun do you think 630 00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:53,710 these large deposits of possible energy 631 00:29:59,250 --> 00:29:56,830 or the past historical evidence with the 632 00:30:01,049 --> 00:29:59,260 land could have more to do with all this 633 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,059 and everything else in your opinion I 634 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:03,760 guess it's a hard question but what do 635 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:07,929 you personally think Kendall that's a 636 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:12,960 good that's a very good question um so 637 00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:17,679 yeah I got into the paranormal 15 years 638 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:20,380 ago and you know I answered a Craigslist 639 00:30:27,630 --> 00:30:23,650 ad to ghost hunters and I got on the 640 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:27,640 show as a camera B and I've been working 641 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:29,590 on ghost owners for many many years ever 642 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:32,770 since and a lot of these go shows and 643 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:36,100 when I started back then I thought okay 644 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:37,990 I can find I had an experience a long 645 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:40,630 time ago I can finally get answers to 646 00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:43,510 what happened to me and you know some of 647 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:47,830 this ghost paranormal in everything you 648 00:30:53,970 --> 00:30:49,690 know maybe I can get a little bit of 649 00:30:56,610 --> 00:30:53,980 answers here no that is not the case and 650 00:30:59,580 --> 00:30:56,620 along with this house it's opened up 651 00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,590 more questions than I've gotten the 652 00:31:02,150 --> 00:31:01,600 answers because what happens is you get 653 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:02,160 war 654 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:06,450 thing that that you get a slight answer 655 00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:08,310 for and then ma'am 656 00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:10,200 okay there's another thing that just 657 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:12,300 happened and now I gotta go down this 658 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:14,310 rabbit hole and try to figure that out 659 00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:18,480 so for me personally at this out there's 660 00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:21,230 so many things going on there's so like 661 00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:24,660 so many possibilities if I were to like 662 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:28,070 step back and look at it all I really 663 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:31,200 think that there's a possibility of 664 00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:35,910 multi-dimensional stuff happening at the 665 00:31:45,050 --> 00:31:39,360 house I I think that it might be some 666 00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:45,060 kind of you know intersection of some 667 00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:48,270 sort where things pass through come 668 00:31:54,410 --> 00:31:50,790 visit for a few and then leave because 669 00:31:58,550 --> 00:31:54,420 there's so many different different 670 00:32:02,330 --> 00:31:58,560 personalities happening there of stuff 671 00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:02,340 multi-dimensional I think there might be 672 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:06,270 some some haunting stuff I you know it's 673 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:11,640 hard to tell I mean it's you know you're 674 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:14,730 kind of dipping into what are ghosts and 675 00:32:19,550 --> 00:32:17,010 where you know it nobody's ever going to 676 00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:19,560 know really what a ghost is you know are 677 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:23,460 they demons are they deceased relatives 678 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:26,730 are they you know is it Lane is it the 679 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:30,210 land you know is it elemental you know 680 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:32,360 they're you could go down the list and 681 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:37,110 try to figure it out in my brain there's 682 00:32:42,820 --> 00:32:39,690 something happening in there it's 683 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:42,830 there's there's stuff that's happening 684 00:32:50,530 --> 00:32:46,050 closer to the experiences of people that 685 00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:50,540 have had a million in UFO encounters and 686 00:32:57,470 --> 00:32:53,160 there's other ghostly stuff that I've 687 00:33:00,260 --> 00:32:57,480 experienced on my my work with Ghost 688 00:33:02,150 --> 00:33:00,270 Hunters so I think yeah I think there's 689 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:02,160 there's two things maybe three things 690 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:06,210 happening at the house and it might be 691 00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:09,470 some kind of land I mean we found 692 00:33:15,770 --> 00:33:12,030 information on the land you know there's 693 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:15,780 there's definitely stuff 694 00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:19,200 underneath the house that that could be 695 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:23,790 used as a conduit you know we we you 696 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:26,370 know Alice isn't the only person 697 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:30,810 experiencing stuff in her area is this a 698 00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,530 hot spot yeah it is a hot spot because 699 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:37,080 in our research we did a you know you 700 00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,450 can see it in the film we we actually 701 00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:41,580 this is a little like behind the scenes 702 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:45,350 tip on that criminal board that we used 703 00:33:51,490 --> 00:33:47,610 we can't 704 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:51,500 I contacted MUFON and I got every single 705 00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:54,570 UFO activity in that area and I put a 706 00:34:00,410 --> 00:33:58,380 pushpin of all the UFO activity in 707 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:00,420 Mississippi and the surrounding area 708 00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:04,770 and after at the visual of that was 709 00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:08,280 enough to say okay this is this is a hot 710 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:10,919 spot for sure so yeah there's there's a 711 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:15,270 lot of possibilities I I like the idea 712 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:19,290 of multi-dimensional because it kind of 713 00:34:26,899 --> 00:34:22,490 makes sense to me I mean what if there's 714 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:26,909 there's a thin veil in certain areas 715 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:29,730 because of land elements or whatever 716 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:32,490 whatever the energy is or you know what 717 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:36,330 if there's another parallel universe or 718 00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:39,510 some other dimension that is kind of 719 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:43,020 bleeding into ours in certain areas and 720 00:34:48,830 --> 00:34:46,800 maybe they can communicate with you the 721 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:48,840 you know the the evidence that we've 722 00:34:54,619 --> 00:34:51,450 gathered there that Brad and John have 723 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:54,629 obscene and gathered it's intelligent 724 00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:58,170 and John is clearly teaching the house 725 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:01,280 to speak back so what is the house 726 00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:04,170 something intelligent I don't know but 727 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:06,300 it's it's produced and it produced it 728 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:10,650 continues to produce and and it's just 729 00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:14,370 fascinating to see it for your own 730 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,540 through your own eyes so yeah I mean 731 00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:21,440 it's hard for me to pinpoint exactly 732 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:23,700 what I think is going on there because 733 00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:26,310 there's you know the paranormal it's 734 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:28,500 hard to even pinpoint anything you know 735 00:35:32,690 --> 00:35:29,280 I can't 736 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:32,700 put my stamp on that but but my gut 737 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:35,090 tells me that it's possibly 738 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,070 multi-dimensional it's possibly some 739 00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:40,800 kind of energy happening at the house 740 00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:43,380 and maybe that's spiking up you know 741 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:46,020 some of these some of these entities you 742 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:47,910 know maybe there's a there's a 743 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:50,850 connection between the energy from a 744 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:54,260 multi-dimensional portal opening up to 745 00:36:00,560 --> 00:35:58,530 possibly fueling manifestation of 746 00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:00,570 entities I don't know you know it's 747 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:03,240 awesome to think about and I think we 748 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:07,050 need to get science involved closer to 749 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:09,210 be able to look at this and this is a 750 00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:11,220 great house to study man I mean it's 751 00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:15,720 being studied 24/7 it is it's just you 752 00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:19,590 know it's just really a really great 753 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:22,040 controlled study and John and Brad 754 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:24,450 they're lucky to have it Alice turned 755 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,820 the keys over to them after she left the 756 00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:29,520 house in 2011 and they've been studying 757 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:31,800 it ever since so so they're they're 758 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:33,930 probably some of the only people I know 759 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:39,230 that that have a you know a frequently 760 00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:42,810 highly act active house that they have 761 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:44,940 cameras on and you know devices 762 00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:49,170 everything study in the house 24/7 yeah 763 00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:50,820 it's like having keys to like the 764 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:53,070 science the ongoing science project I'm 765 00:36:59,300 --> 00:36:57,450 super jealous and the you know as far as 766 00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:59,310 the area being active 767 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:00,900 I mean modern physics is definitely 768 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:03,330 involved but as far as the area being 769 00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:05,610 active I mean heck you have Calvin 770 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:07,560 Parker's appearance you know that a lot 771 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:10,170 of people forget is nearby um you guys 772 00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:12,210 hit on so many so many things saying 773 00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:14,220 almost fire all kinds of neat things 774 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:16,470 with ball lightning which i think is you 775 00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,910 know definitely some electricity 776 00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:20,400 discharging and odd possibly paranormal 777 00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:24,420 ways but most of what we know and this 778 00:37:28,070 --> 00:37:26,190 is mentioned in the film most of what we 779 00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:28,080 know about modern physics can be 780 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:30,660 explained by other dimensions is the 781 00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:33,890 potential fer maybe even that 782 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:39,360 extraterrestrial element there yeah yeah 783 00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:42,570 yeah I mean ours 784 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:46,440 had many many experiences not just the 785 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:49,260 one that made her move out with light 786 00:37:56,660 --> 00:37:53,970 and you know we deep dive into the film 787 00:37:58,990 --> 00:37:56,670 so definitely go see the film to see 788 00:38:02,570 --> 00:37:59,000 what alice is talking about these lights 789 00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:02,580 but there's there's there's a few things 790 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:06,420 happening at the house that go along 791 00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:08,970 with some other people's experiences 792 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:11,220 with the UFOs and that's why we talked 793 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:14,640 to Calvin Parker who is a UFO sorry an 794 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:19,920 alien abductee and such a great 795 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:23,490 experience was sort of similar to 796 00:38:27,710 --> 00:38:25,980 alice's so you know we're trying to put 797 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:27,720 the pieces together of what's going on 798 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:29,850 in the house by talking to all these 799 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:32,820 people because you know it's it starts 800 00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:36,170 to sway on the side of some kind of 801 00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:39,060 extraterrestrial some kind of 802 00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:41,580 intelligent life-forms 803 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:45,540 I you know it this is complex it's just 804 00:38:54,620 --> 00:38:48,540 it's a complex story it's a complex 805 00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:54,630 situation and it really needs to be 806 00:39:02,180 --> 00:38:57,680 looked at by science because you know 807 00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,190 it's so it's it's just so bizarre of 808 00:39:09,860 --> 00:39:05,280 what has happened to Alice and in her 809 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,870 house and just looking at it from a 810 00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:12,480 science perspective will help maybe 811 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:15,300 unravel the you know peel back the onion 812 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:18,570 or some kind of discovery that would be 813 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:22,650 made and in in in getting closer to to 814 00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:25,110 what those lights are and and that is 815 00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:27,900 you know that is the that was that's the 816 00:39:34,690 --> 00:39:31,020 goal of the documentary is to see what 817 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,700 is it that's going on at Alice's home 818 00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:37,680 yeah there's a lot going on there and 819 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:41,220 there's you know the the modern physics 820 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,030 element and like you mentioned we've 821 00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:47,040 been dancing around this elephant in the 822 00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:48,420 room in a spacesuit or this 823 00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:51,480 extraterrestrial aspect possibly and 824 00:39:56,059 --> 00:39:53,400 just when you're totally ready to engage 825 00:39:59,599 --> 00:39:56,069 with that particular aspect 826 00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,609 you guys have a psychic with no idea of 827 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:01,920 anything which I thought was genius and 828 00:40:05,390 --> 00:40:03,180 I don't want to give away too much but 829 00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:05,400 they just invited somebody with no idea 830 00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:08,400 of absolutely anything and where it went 831 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:09,089 from there 832 00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:12,900 whoa issues with possible pre cognitive 833 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:15,630 intelligence and it manifesting in 834 00:40:24,430 --> 00:40:18,930 dreams and it gets deeper than that 835 00:40:26,689 --> 00:40:24,440 did you guys have any personal 836 00:40:29,089 --> 00:40:26,699 experiences with any pre cognitive 837 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:29,099 intelligences like that psychic did when 838 00:40:37,789 --> 00:40:34,890 she arrived at the house you know ah no 839 00:40:40,549 --> 00:40:37,799 I didn't have anything happen to me 840 00:40:43,219 --> 00:40:40,559 before I went to the house and you know 841 00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:43,229 Steve I don't believe he he had anything 842 00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:45,660 happened to him before we stepped foot 843 00:40:53,689 --> 00:40:49,979 in the house yeah Jill Morris our 844 00:40:59,449 --> 00:40:53,699 psychic that we that we had come to the 845 00:41:01,880 --> 00:40:59,459 house we I met her there and I my wife 846 00:41:04,579 --> 00:41:01,890 era we used to do a podcast a long time 847 00:41:07,189 --> 00:41:04,589 ago and in general we met Jill through 848 00:41:10,339 --> 00:41:07,199 our podcast and she was always somebody 849 00:41:13,569 --> 00:41:10,349 who stood out to me as credible she does 850 00:41:19,849 --> 00:41:13,579 a lot of police cases and unsolved 851 00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:19,859 criminal cases and and so when the time 852 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:22,680 came to that you know Steve wasn't on 853 00:41:28,099 --> 00:41:25,170 board with a psychic he's never been on 854 00:41:30,759 --> 00:41:28,109 board with psychics but for this house 855 00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:30,769 we wanted to kind of hit every angle and 856 00:41:37,459 --> 00:41:34,920 kind of you know see see what see what a 857 00:41:39,229 --> 00:41:37,469 psychic would say cuz you know it you 858 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:39,239 never know they might hit on something 859 00:41:44,539 --> 00:41:42,930 but we in the film you know we were kind 860 00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:44,549 of like whoa let's challenge it you know 861 00:41:52,969 --> 00:41:49,859 if somebody's gonna free free you know 862 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:52,979 pre-research the house and you know we 863 00:41:59,089 --> 00:41:56,249 we sent somebody in that has knowledge 864 00:42:00,769 --> 00:41:59,099 of it pre coming in and then they're 865 00:42:04,759 --> 00:42:00,779 going to give us everything that we 866 00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:04,769 we've you know they see online or you 867 00:42:09,259 --> 00:42:06,539 know that they've heard about the house 868 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:09,269 so you know before the film we actually 869 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:09,950 had 870 00:42:14,140 --> 00:42:12,290 those guys take a lot of their stuff 871 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:14,150 down because we knew that we're going to 872 00:42:19,390 --> 00:42:16,760 have people coming in and we didn't want 873 00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:19,400 anybody to pre-research anything about 874 00:42:23,620 --> 00:42:20,780 the house we didn't we wanted people 875 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:23,630 coming in with with zero knowledge of 876 00:42:28,450 --> 00:42:25,550 where they're going and that was that 877 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:28,460 was the case for our psychic Jill you 878 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:30,530 know I I called her and I was like hey 879 00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:34,930 you know I I got to ask do you mind 880 00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:37,700 flying to a place that you're not going 881 00:42:42,099 --> 00:42:40,040 to know where you're going and coming 882 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,109 and doing the shoot and not knowing 883 00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:44,000 anything about it and you know she was 884 00:42:48,609 --> 00:42:46,220 so so great about yeah I'm definitely 885 00:42:51,250 --> 00:42:48,619 down thank God she trusted us you know 886 00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:51,260 we're like you know put her on a plane 887 00:42:57,550 --> 00:42:55,220 that some random City to you know some 888 00:43:00,940 --> 00:42:57,560 random location that she has nothing to 889 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:00,950 you know knowing nothing about and it 890 00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:04,400 was really neat to see when she came in 891 00:43:10,690 --> 00:43:07,220 I mean we filmed for four hours with her 892 00:43:13,569 --> 00:43:10,700 and some of the stuff that she picked up 893 00:43:15,819 --> 00:43:13,579 on was just it was just amazing 894 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:15,829 and it really added to the documentary 895 00:43:21,010 --> 00:43:18,770 just to give that insight you know what 896 00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:21,020 does a psychic say you know we have we 897 00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:23,089 have the professionals on the scientific 898 00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:26,300 side and and what does you know what 899 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:29,630 does somebody with with extra you know 900 00:43:35,859 --> 00:43:32,920 sensory somebody with a psychic ability 901 00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:35,869 somebody that can tap into possibly the 902 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:38,300 other side what do they say so 903 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:41,690 everything you saw in the film with what 904 00:43:50,109 --> 00:43:46,130 she picked up on I mean I 150% can 905 00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:50,119 promise you that was all real we never 906 00:43:54,220 --> 00:43:52,790 gave her any kind of clues any kind of 907 00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:54,230 information I mean you could see her 908 00:43:59,319 --> 00:43:56,569 face when she's like I mean we just kind 909 00:44:02,200 --> 00:43:59,329 of took her from the airport she landed 910 00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:02,210 she got in a car our producer Paul 911 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:05,660 picked her up and and filmed her and she 912 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:07,490 got to the house I'm ready you know I'm 913 00:44:11,770 --> 00:44:09,740 waiting for her outside she gets out of 914 00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,780 the car walks in the house he doesn't 915 00:44:14,980 --> 00:44:13,520 know whether to ring the doorbell or not 916 00:44:17,319 --> 00:44:14,990 she meets Alice for the first time I 917 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:17,329 mean that you just don't do that in 918 00:44:21,849 --> 00:44:19,849 production it's just so you never know 919 00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:21,859 what's going to happen and that's kind 920 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:22,200 of 921 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:24,330 took this the doc it was fly by the seat 922 00:44:29,330 --> 00:44:27,210 of your pants and that was kind of 923 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:29,340 challenging you know and and and it is 924 00:44:36,770 --> 00:44:33,570 really cool to see how that turned out 925 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:36,780 and how well that turned out and it was 926 00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:40,530 really neat that it ties in with the 927 00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:44,310 rest of the story and really I mean this 928 00:44:48,590 --> 00:44:47,190 house or this this energy gave it to us 929 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:48,600 because I mean the whole story just 930 00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:51,630 don't fold it for us really well you 931 00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:54,150 guys have to see this this show it's 932 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:56,760 pretty amazing and one thing she did say 933 00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:58,050 that I thought was interesting for a 934 00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:00,900 psychic is that a lot of dimensions were 935 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:02,550 going on in the house and I was like oh 936 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:06,990 my gosh and a question I have to ask you 937 00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:08,850 know it was mentioned somewhere in the 938 00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:10,950 in the documentary which is so in-depth 939 00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:12,990 and I think that was so well handled and 940 00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:14,430 so well managed bringing somebody who 941 00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:17,160 had no idea of anything by the way there 942 00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,420 were some questions being asked about of 943 00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:21,180 another fire and a fire didn't a fire 944 00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:24,150 detector went off in the home first time 945 00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:26,580 ever and it was mentioned that these 946 00:45:32,290 --> 00:45:28,260 entities if they could burn the house 947 00:45:35,090 --> 00:45:32,300 down they would with their it brings up 948 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:35,100 some other individuals a personal friend 949 00:45:39,830 --> 00:45:36,810 of mine and myself who had things 950 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:39,840 destroyed by fire was this something 951 00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:41,940 that you had heard before with or was 952 00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:43,020 this the first time that you'd heard 953 00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:47,640 that kind of kind of a comment yeah not 954 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:49,980 that not to spoil the film too much but 955 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:53,370 but yeah would you what you're talking 956 00:45:59,210 --> 00:45:55,290 about there that moment was the first 957 00:46:01,760 --> 00:45:59,220 for us the study of the events that 958 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:01,770 happened in that moment have never 959 00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:04,800 happened before that and never in until 960 00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:10,020 this day have not happened again I mean 961 00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:13,110 I check in with Brad John and Alice all 962 00:46:17,410 --> 00:46:14,940 the time and they tell me you know 963 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:17,420 what's happening in the house still and 964 00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:18,870 that event 965 00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:20,550 still has not happened so that was a 966 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:27,240 one-off event at that time and you know 967 00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:31,290 we we took it serious that is a serious 968 00:46:41,710 --> 00:46:38,210 piece of knowledge or or you know advice 969 00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:41,720 that the the psychic Jill Morris had had 970 00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:46,680 given Alice and and we took it we took 971 00:46:55,099 --> 00:46:49,380 it serious Alice actually bought you 972 00:46:59,530 --> 00:46:55,109 know extra extra cameras and extra you 973 00:47:02,510 --> 00:46:59,540 know some some fire fire prevention 974 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:02,520 pieces for the home after that because 975 00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:05,010 you know that's that's kind of a big 976 00:47:09,530 --> 00:47:07,740 deal you eat somebody tells you they 977 00:47:12,250 --> 00:47:09,540 they want to burn down your house you 978 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:12,260 kind of take that serious whether it's a 979 00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:15,690 ghost er or a human you know anybody's 980 00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:17,880 saying that that's something that you 981 00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:21,060 really take serious so yeah it's 982 00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:27,480 startling it was very negative and that 983 00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:30,230 that that goes along with the multiple 984 00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:33,540 things and personalities coming through 985 00:47:42,940 --> 00:47:38,190 there you know a lot of the stuff in the 986 00:47:46,099 --> 00:47:42,950 house is is very very nice and and and 987 00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:46,109 what do I want to say just just very 988 00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:49,230 very caring you know you get you get 989 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:52,140 that but every once in a while you'll 990 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:55,290 get you'll get something that that that 991 00:48:00,620 --> 00:47:57,330 has a little negativity to it and and 992 00:48:03,230 --> 00:48:00,630 that's what the medium sorry the psychic 993 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:03,240 was picking up on so so well so well 994 00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:06,210 documented so well made such an epic 995 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:08,280 film and the footage you guys I want to 996 00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,810 talk about it but I just can't you have 997 00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:12,000 to see it it's stuff that will blow your 998 00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,300 mind and I can't thank you enough for 999 00:48:19,099 --> 00:48:16,800 coming on the podcast 1000 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:19,109 Kendall where can people keep up with 1001 00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:20,490 what you're doing keep up with the 1002 00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:22,260 project purchase the movie I wouldn't 1003 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:24,510 rent it I'd buy it and anything else you 1004 00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,010 have going on yeah so arm the movie is 1005 00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:32,160 available on 26 different video 1006 00:48:36,170 --> 00:48:34,230 on-demand platform so anywhere you can 1007 00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:36,180 rent movies you can rent this you can 1008 00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:40,200 even rent this and in in video stores 1009 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:41,940 believe it or not there's some video 1010 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:43,800 stores still around you can get that 1011 00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:47,730 there you can get it on bestbuy.com but 1012 00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,560 the best place 1013 00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:50,240 get it and yeah you're right you should 1014 00:48:56,020 --> 00:48:53,120 buy it because you know I've watched it 1015 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:56,030 many many times and you know we made the 1016 00:49:00,910 --> 00:48:58,610 movie it's something that you're going 1017 00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:00,920 to want to watch just over and over 1018 00:49:06,970 --> 00:49:05,180 again to actually see different angles 1019 00:49:09,070 --> 00:49:06,980 of it you know I'll give you a little 1020 00:49:12,910 --> 00:49:09,080 flip tip we left some stuff in there 1021 00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:12,920 little cookies for you of what could be 1022 00:49:18,550 --> 00:49:16,310 paranormal we don't know and we left 1023 00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:18,560 that in there for you so so you might 1024 00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:21,230 see that on a second watch or a third 1025 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:24,280 watch so it's it's a fun movie to watch 1026 00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:28,730 in and yeah you can buy that on iTunes 1027 00:49:40,030 --> 00:49:32,990 you can get it on let's see here it's on 1028 00:49:42,670 --> 00:49:40,040 iTunes it's on Google Play it's on it's 1029 00:49:45,310 --> 00:49:42,680 it's a good other house in between calm 1030 00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:45,320 that's the house in between calm and we 1031 00:49:50,350 --> 00:49:48,620 have all the links and everywhere you 1032 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:50,360 can watch it and if you're wanting to 1033 00:49:56,110 --> 00:49:53,210 watch it overseas the best place to 1034 00:49:58,930 --> 00:49:56,120 catch that is on Vimeo the Vimeo on 1035 00:50:02,500 --> 00:49:58,940 demand spot there but the house in 1036 00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:02,510 between calm is the best place to to 1037 00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,310 check it out and see where you can where 1038 00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:06,800 you can watch it and then also yeah sign 1039 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:09,350 up because we will keep you involved in 1040 00:50:13,630 --> 00:50:11,930 if you know we do a part two or you know 1041 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:13,640 we got some t-shirts and some hats and 1042 00:50:18,340 --> 00:50:16,160 stuff for sale in the store you know 1043 00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:18,350 it's a little community right now a lot 1044 00:50:23,110 --> 00:50:21,110 of people chiming in on our message 1045 00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:23,120 board of what what's going on in the 1046 00:50:27,310 --> 00:50:25,120 movie and stuff so it's it's fun 1047 00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:27,320 Facebook you can you can follow the 1048 00:50:33,970 --> 00:50:30,550 house in between our Facebook Instagram 1049 00:50:37,870 --> 00:50:33,980 yeah so you can find us everywhere we're 1050 00:50:40,090 --> 00:50:37,880 out there the movie is there's a fun 1051 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:40,100 watch I think you guys like it if you're 1052 00:50:44,590 --> 00:50:41,570 into the paranormal or even if you're 1053 00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:44,600 not in the paranormal it's it's a good 1054 00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,120 movie to to watch with even with your 1055 00:50:50,770 --> 00:50:49,040 family so you can that's a movie you can 1056 00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:50,780 watch with your watch your watch with 1057 00:50:56,890 --> 00:50:53,510 your kids in your your young ones and 1058 00:51:01,210 --> 00:50:56,900 stuff so um yeah and as far as future 1059 00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:01,220 projects my wife Farah Welton and I 1060 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:04,940 are working on some stuff that that is 1061 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:07,730 gonna be fun and hopefully you know 1062 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:09,410 right right now we're we're all on 1063 00:51:14,410 --> 00:51:12,890 lockdown so you know once once were it's 1064 00:51:14,859 --> 00:51:14,420 it's safe to go out and start working 1065 00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:14,869 again 1066 00:51:20,109 --> 00:51:17,660 well we'll start working on these future 1067 00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:20,119 projects here so yeah I'd love to give a 1068 00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:23,270 shout out to Vera my wife she she was my 1069 00:51:29,770 --> 00:51:27,800 rock in helping make this film she she's 1070 00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:29,780 one of the producers on the film and she 1071 00:51:34,990 --> 00:51:31,640 just I mean she did such a phenomenal 1072 00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:35,000 job helping craft some of the the 1073 00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:37,670 segments in the in the film and and she 1074 00:51:44,650 --> 00:51:41,359 she just she was such a such a major 1075 00:51:49,329 --> 00:51:44,660 force in this Steve just awesome 1076 00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:49,339 co-director with me Alice and and and 1077 00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:51,950 Brad and John just awesome people to 1078 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:55,190 work with just everybody that came into 1079 00:51:59,620 --> 00:51:56,690 the house for the film I love to give a 1080 00:52:03,250 --> 00:51:59,630 shout out to I it was just it's just 1081 00:52:04,809 --> 00:52:03,260 such a unique experience you know it was 1082 00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:04,819 amazing to work with all these different 1083 00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:07,700 people and and just have the kind of 1084 00:52:13,059 --> 00:52:11,180 love and care that they gave us when we 1085 00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:13,069 came in I mean they they open their 1086 00:52:17,319 --> 00:52:15,140 hearts to us and they're in telling 1087 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:17,329 their story and that really made all the 1088 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:20,000 difference on camera so you know and and 1089 00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:23,690 and just there's so many people to thank 1090 00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:28,180 for this Corey frost our amazing editor 1091 00:52:34,349 --> 00:52:32,329 Joe Miller our sound designer yeah just 1092 00:52:37,210 --> 00:52:34,359 just so many people to thank and and 1093 00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:37,220 yeah go ahead and check out the film go 1094 00:52:43,450 --> 00:52:39,109 to our website that's in between comm 1095 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,460 and the the website is so cool because 1096 00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:45,440 like you said all the links are active 1097 00:52:49,540 --> 00:52:48,260 and swiftly we'll take you to however 1098 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:49,550 you want to watch it anyway 1099 00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:51,890 I'm so glad you all did the project it's 1100 00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:54,470 amazing and I have to agree with you 1101 00:52:57,370 --> 00:52:55,790 your wife I think she did the 1102 00:53:01,690 --> 00:52:57,380 illustrations which were so cool oh 1103 00:53:04,809 --> 00:53:01,700 you're right she did yeah man I can't 1104 00:53:06,339 --> 00:53:04,819 wait to keep in touch with you and the 1105 00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:06,349 project and I can't thank you enough for 1106 00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:06,980 coming on 1107 00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:09,190 take care Kendall and talk soon I hope 1108 00:53:18,650 --> 00:53:11,750 hey thanks Ryan I really appreciate it 1109 00:55:15,190 --> 00:53:44,020 [Music] 1110 00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:19,320 you 1111 00:56:27,450 --> 00:56:25,030 merging realities and it's very blatant 1112 00:56:30,270 --> 00:56:27,460 some of with without getting you're 1113 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:30,280 giving too much away there was a massive 1114 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:34,930 change for Alice yeah yeah so I'm glad 1115 00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,750 you're talking about the multi dimension 1116 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:39,760 stuff because you know I think we need 1117 00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:43,240 to talk about that a little more of that 1118 00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:46,390 in the paranormal you know the film 1119 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:49,000 touches on that and it's just 1120 00:56:55,130 --> 00:56:52,240 interesting that you know here's Alice 1121 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:55,140 Alice is just one of the most wonderful 1122 00:57:01,830 --> 00:56:58,330 women I've met in my life she is just so 1123 00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:01,840 generous and nice and and just a just a 1124 00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:04,750 beautiful spirit you know and and she's 1125 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:08,500 so smart with you know with some of some 1126 00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:11,890 of the the metaphysical and some of the 1127 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:14,380 paranormal it's you know it kind of took 1128 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:17,650 me back how well knowledge she is with 1129 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:20,890 you know some of these theories on on on 1130 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:24,010 some of you know multi-dimensional and 1131 00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:29,920 and you know alien and and UFO and and I 1132 00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:31,390 and you know it just 1133 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:35,470 I think her experience that she had made 1134 00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:38,650 her do a deep dive into to what she 1135 00:57:43,710 --> 00:57:41,070 experienced so she read up on on 1136 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:43,720 everything she possibly could just to 1137 00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:46,690 kind of figure out which what happened 1138 00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:48,910 to her she she had this profound 1139 00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:51,040 experience I mean everything was good uh 1140 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:53,830 in the house she lived in the house you 1141 00:57:58,740 --> 00:57:55,570 know we can we can say that she moved 1142 00:58:01,890 --> 00:57:58,750 out after this experience it was it was 1143 00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:01,900 major I mean she built her dream home 1144 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:06,550 and in basically was so scared of what 1145 00:58:14,190 --> 00:58:09,970 happened to her one on one particular 1146 00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:14,200 night um she just had to leave she had 1147 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:17,980 to leave and and she wanted to know what 1148 00:58:23,250 --> 00:58:20,530 it was that happened to her she just 1149 00:58:26,550 --> 00:58:23,260 wants to make sense of it all and you 1150 00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:26,560 know I don't blame her I mean she I mean 1151 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:28,150 you think about it put yourself in 1152 00:58:32,210 --> 00:58:30,850 Alice's shoes here you are you spend all 1153 00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:32,220 this money on a house 1154 00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,800 it's your dream home you're living in it 1155 00:58:39,470 --> 00:58:37,200 you have all your stuff in there every 1156 00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,480 day you you kind of experience these 1157 00:58:43,790 --> 00:58:41,520 strange things but you kind of shrug it 1158 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:43,800 off and then all sudden you have this 1159 00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:45,450 major event happen 1160 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:50,280 that's super paranormal and that's it 1161 00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:53,609 you're done you leave your house and you 1162 00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,650 know it's it's sad it's not right as 1163 00:59:05,540 --> 00:59:00,720 Steve and I the filmmakers we were 1164 00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:05,550 deeply deeply invested in Alice's Story 1165 00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:08,820 Alice's case we wanted to bring her 1166 00:59:15,020 --> 00:59:12,180 answers so we got professionals we got 1167 00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:15,030 some of the best professionals to look 1168 00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:18,150 at some of the things that they captured 1169 00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,030 over the years we really wanted and 1170 00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:23,760 needed to you know our main focus as the 1171 00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:27,000 filmmakers to to get Alice answers and 1172 00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,940 you know to try to get Alice to move 1173 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:32,160 back in the house and you know the 1174 00:59:40,030 --> 00:59:35,790 journey was was definitely an eye-opener 1175 00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:40,040 for for Alice as the documentary 1176 00:59:45,290 --> 00:59:42,750 unfolded and us as the filmmakers 1177 00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:45,300 because you know this documentary we 1178 00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:47,310 would kind of followed it like a 1179 00:59:55,010 --> 00:59:50,280 detective story we really just took 1180 00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,020 every lead or every avenue and kind of 1181 01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:57,599 said while this is the most accurate 1182 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:00,960 that we believe so we that's that's kind 1183 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:02,310 of what made the that made the movie 1184 01:00:09,890 --> 01:00:07,410 there yeah and the I thought it was 1185 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:09,900 interesting Alice you know she didn't 1186 01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:11,970 know what she was up against if this was 1187 01:00:15,620 --> 01:00:13,470 a religious experience or like you 1188 01:00:17,710 --> 01:00:15,630 mentioned a UFO experience in her 1189 01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:17,720 dimension I mean she read up on 1190 01:00:22,579 --> 01:00:20,910 everything and and the town that this 1191 01:00:25,310 --> 01:00:22,589 took place in without giving the name 1192 01:00:27,530 --> 01:00:25,320 out is a great little town in the Bible 1193 01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:27,540 Belt which makes this that much more 1194 01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:31,200 unique and which brings about the 1195 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:33,660 quality of people on this on this 1196 01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:36,210 project someone who I followed and then 1197 01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:39,080 merged into this project is John and 1198 01:00:44,180 --> 01:00:41,670 he's an investigator anyway how did 1199 01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:44,190 things go after John was introduced to 1200 01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:44,520 this 1201 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:45,960 I think they mentioned it as 1202 01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:49,410 Mississippi house in the area but this 1203 01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,030 is not this is not a short-term project 1204 01:00:58,250 --> 01:00:53,040 this is super long-term this is not a 1205 01:01:02,000 --> 01:00:58,260 weekend no no this isn't your typical TV 1206 01:01:04,550 --> 01:01:02,010 show you know go and film for you know a 1207 01:01:08,180 --> 01:01:04,560 few days and then you're done this is 1208 01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:08,190 this is heavily invested in like well 1209 01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:11,520 for John years over a decade now John's 1210 01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:13,830 been been documenting the house Brad 1211 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:17,280 came a little later and those two really 1212 01:01:20,839 --> 01:01:18,960 put their heads to the grindstone and 1213 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:20,849 man I got to give it up for those guys 1214 01:01:26,030 --> 01:01:24,450 because and all also all investigators 1215 01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:26,040 that investigate the paranormal because 1216 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:29,369 you know your hearts are in it you want 1217 01:01:33,950 --> 01:01:31,290 to help people and you do it for free 1218 01:01:36,859 --> 01:01:33,960 like you Britt you buy gear you you 1219 01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:36,869 you're investing your time you spend 1220 01:01:40,609 --> 01:01:38,550 endless hours going through evidence 1221 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:40,619 going through trying to figure it out 1222 01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:43,410 trying to you know you're you're you're 1223 01:01:49,550 --> 01:01:47,430 almost an ear an ear and in a therapist 1224 01:01:52,579 --> 01:01:49,560 for some people going through haunting 1225 01:01:56,210 --> 01:01:52,589 it's just it's amazing to see you know 1226 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:56,220 John and Brad be there for for Alison in 1227 01:01:59,839 --> 01:01:58,290 and we feel like we really capture that 1228 01:02:03,920 --> 01:01:59,849 in the film and that's something that's 1229 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:03,930 never really been talked about as far as 1230 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:06,690 the paranormal community and in and that 1231 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:08,730 was that was you know a big story in 1232 01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:10,890 this in the film I mean if you're going 1233 01:02:14,180 --> 01:02:13,020 going to watch this film and you you 1234 01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:14,190 think you're gonna watch another episode 1235 01:02:19,250 --> 01:02:16,950 of ghost hunters or Ghost Adventures or 1236 01:02:22,579 --> 01:02:19,260 you know one of these one of these ghost 1237 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:22,589 hunting shows it's not like that so you 1238 01:02:26,359 --> 01:02:24,450 know it's you're not going to get your 1239 01:02:30,130 --> 01:02:26,369 jump scares in there you're not going to 1240 01:02:32,690 --> 01:02:30,140 get your you know your your your your 1241 01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:32,700 just everything told to you on a silver 1242 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:33,359 platter 1243 01:02:39,380 --> 01:02:36,000 this is a thought-provoking piece you 1244 01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:39,390 know we we give you everything we give 1245 01:02:44,359 --> 01:02:41,790 you everything that we learned and you 1246 01:02:46,190 --> 01:02:44,369 know it's just really cool to see now 1247 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:46,200 you've been after the movies been out 1248 01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,250 what people are writing about and in 1249 01:02:53,630 --> 01:02:51,359 contacting us and letting us know what 1250 01:02:56,599 --> 01:02:53,640 they they think is there what they think 1251 01:02:58,130 --> 01:02:56,609 is going on with the home what you know 1252 01:03:00,349 --> 01:02:58,140 people are even doing research and 1253 01:03:02,539 --> 01:03:00,359 sending me maps and you know it's really 1254 01:03:04,339 --> 01:03:02,549 cool to see that we did do our homework 1255 01:03:07,339 --> 01:03:04,349 because I'm getting a lot of the same 1256 01:03:09,259 --> 01:03:07,349 same stuff that we we had gotten you 1257 01:03:10,999 --> 01:03:09,269 know that we had found out so it's just 1258 01:03:14,019 --> 01:03:11,009 really neat I think this this 1259 01:03:18,859 --> 01:03:14,029 documentary has really hit a spot in 1260 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:18,869 people's hearts and you know in in the 1261 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:21,450 field of the paranormal that that has 1262 01:03:26,089 --> 01:03:24,210 never been looked at so yeah it's it's 1263 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:26,099 just it's just been such a cool 1264 01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:30,089 experience it's hit a niche that I think 1265 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:32,249 needed to be hit 1266 01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:36,210 it's almost tapping into another part of 1267 01:03:42,170 --> 01:03:38,190 the paranormal it's almost another world 1268 01:03:46,339 --> 01:03:42,180 entirely and I wanted to discuss if it's 1269 01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:46,349 okay Brad Cooney who lives so close and 1270 01:03:51,710 --> 01:03:49,680 he I mean this is kind of how he got 1271 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:51,720 involved in the paranormal and he had 1272 01:03:56,839 --> 01:03:54,690 activity the first day he visited Brad's 1273 01:04:00,289 --> 01:03:56,849 cell phone footage is so high hold by 1274 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:00,299 the way but going along those lines 1275 01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:03,930 Brad living so close by has he had this 1276 01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:06,420 is kind of off from the movie has he had 1277 01:04:11,499 --> 01:04:08,819 anything happen where he lives has this 1278 01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:11,509 followed him home at all 1279 01:04:19,370 --> 01:04:15,839 yeah so Brad Cooney he's an investigator 1280 01:04:23,529 --> 01:04:19,380 that joined John after a few years Brad 1281 01:04:28,509 --> 01:04:23,539 had seen Alice's story on the news and 1282 01:04:31,009 --> 01:04:28,519 it intrigued him Brad had some UFO 1283 01:04:33,739 --> 01:04:31,019 experiences when he was in the military 1284 01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:33,749 and he's so that's kind of piqued his 1285 01:04:38,989 --> 01:04:35,460 perk piqued his interest in the 1286 01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:38,999 paranormal and you know he thought hey I 1287 01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:40,529 want to see what's going on over at this 1288 01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,670 house and you know he reached out and he 1289 01:04:49,069 --> 01:04:46,559 got invited over to the Mississippi 1290 01:04:51,890 --> 01:04:49,079 House that's that's kind of his story in 1291 01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:51,900 a nutshell and it's just I mean it was 1292 01:04:57,289 --> 01:04:54,839 all fake like that team was brought 1293 01:04:58,819 --> 01:04:57,299 together just by fate and you know 1294 01:05:01,880 --> 01:04:58,829 they're they're not even a team they're 1295 01:05:05,569 --> 01:05:01,890 a family now and and you know they call 1296 01:05:07,549 --> 01:05:05,579 Alice Queen B and and you know Brad Brad 1297 01:05:10,249 --> 01:05:07,559 has you know we've talked about things 1298 01:05:13,339 --> 01:05:10,259 following people home and you know Brad 1299 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:13,349 has told me that he's never had anything 1300 01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:14,050 fall 1301 01:05:18,420 --> 01:05:16,960 home from the Mississippi house but that 1302 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:18,430 doesn't mean that I've heard stories 1303 01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:21,610 from other people that I believe things 1304 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:24,400 have possibly followed them from the 1305 01:05:30,270 --> 01:05:27,850 Mississippi house you know it's it's 1306 01:05:32,370 --> 01:05:30,280 hard to tell because it's it's all you 1307 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:32,380 know personal experiences we like to 1308 01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:35,050 document the experiences on camera when 1309 01:05:40,170 --> 01:05:37,270 we can and when we do you know that 1310 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:40,180 helps a lot because that brings a lot 1311 01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:43,210 more credibility to things so you know 1312 01:05:49,310 --> 01:05:46,390 the story is evolving here things are 1313 01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:49,320 still happening after the documentary 1314 01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:53,440 and it's just you know the the 1315 01:05:59,550 --> 01:05:55,420 Mississippi house there's there's 1316 01:06:03,270 --> 01:05:59,560 something going on there and it it's 1317 01:06:08,190 --> 01:06:03,280 just mind-boggling the multiple layers 1318 01:06:11,210 --> 01:06:08,200 of things happening you know when I when 1319 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:11,220 I first started hearing about this house 1320 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:15,810 from from Steve Brad John Alice it 1321 01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:19,210 reminded me a lot of something in a case 1322 01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:23,310 or a location that I'm deeply deeply 1323 01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:27,400 interested in and and that is the 1324 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:31,150 skinwalker ranch I just you know as I 1325 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:33,250 heard the story about skinwalker ranch 1326 01:06:40,410 --> 01:06:37,450 probably 1012 years ago and ever since 1327 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:40,420 then I was hooked on on anything 1328 01:06:45,870 --> 01:06:42,930 skinwalker just from the stories and 1329 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:45,880 this is the first time that I've heard 1330 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:50,530 of possible UFO activity happening in a 1331 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:54,250 location alongside ghosts and that's 1332 01:07:00,750 --> 01:06:56,730 that's really really what kind of got my 1333 01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:00,760 my radar going off with with how 1334 01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:03,520 different this this case is and how 1335 01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:06,190 different you know this did the 1336 01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:08,710 experiences of what's going on at this 1337 01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:14,110 house yes and that is very very 1338 01:07:18,980 --> 01:07:16,120 interesting 1339 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:18,990 I thought something very similar I 1340 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:22,210 absolutely love that area of Utah that 1341 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:24,730 you're mentioned and and I thought it 1342 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:26,170 was really interesting that you used 1343 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:27,490 something that 1344 01:07:32,190 --> 01:07:29,290 I've used in the past and others the 1345 01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:32,200 trigger objects you know we put out 1346 01:07:38,910 --> 01:07:36,940 everything from Apple's to to sandwiches 1347 01:07:41,070 --> 01:07:38,920 to you know things for them to play with 1348 01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:41,080 them oh my gosh Here I am calling him 1349 01:07:46,620 --> 01:07:44,110 them yeah it's just you know and this 1350 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:46,630 was also done in the film something 1351 01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:49,450 similar I think you guys went every 1352 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:51,910 extent you went you had contractors 1353 01:07:57,870 --> 01:07:54,130 electricians etc go to the extent of 1354 01:07:59,280 --> 01:07:57,880 checking the house and and and man you 1355 01:08:01,320 --> 01:07:59,290 had an experience yourself with a 1356 01:08:04,050 --> 01:08:01,330 trigger object I don't want it but like 1357 01:08:08,310 --> 01:08:04,060 holy cow yeah I was I was intrigued by 1358 01:08:09,540 --> 01:08:08,320 the way the guys answered very 1359 01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:09,550 interesting you mentioned the 1360 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:12,160 investigators they when they were asked 1361 01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:14,410 why they would be scared of the home if 1362 01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:16,630 they've been there so many times and the 1363 01:08:22,230 --> 01:08:20,020 response was epic because we know the 1364 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:22,240 power it has and what it's capable of 1365 01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:23,890 they just took it to the next level 1366 01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:27,490 bringing in my opinion where it went the 1367 01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:29,350 direction they didn't hoard it for 1368 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:29,920 themselves 1369 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:31,810 other people were brought into the mix 1370 01:08:35,610 --> 01:08:34,330 and I think that's important who called 1371 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:35,620 the shots or did that just kind of 1372 01:08:43,650 --> 01:08:40,210 naturally happen uh you know so I got to 1373 01:08:45,690 --> 01:08:43,660 give credit to Alice um Alice for you 1374 01:08:48,559 --> 01:08:45,700 know off camera before the documentary 1375 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:48,569 she she brought in some people that uh 1376 01:08:54,690 --> 01:08:51,970 that checked the level of her house many 1377 01:08:58,800 --> 01:08:54,700 years before when you know some of these 1378 01:09:02,220 --> 01:08:58,810 things were moving and you know Alice 1379 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:02,230 kind of was was asking about certain 1380 01:09:07,740 --> 01:09:04,810 people that you know she she really 1381 01:09:13,670 --> 01:09:07,750 wanted to talk to and you know for the 1382 01:09:17,099 --> 01:09:13,680 documentary Steve and I we we brought in 1383 01:09:20,340 --> 01:09:17,109 you know the the the the professionals 1384 01:09:25,289 --> 01:09:20,350 we got Steve landed the interview with 1385 01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:25,299 doctor died and and you know Michael 1386 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:27,580 Dennin was somebody that Alice had read 1387 01:09:35,329 --> 01:09:30,850 his book and and was deeply interested 1388 01:09:39,230 --> 01:09:35,339 in from his take on on paranormal and 1389 01:09:40,730 --> 01:09:39,240 and you know just having these these 1390 01:09:43,070 --> 01:09:40,740 experts 1391 01:09:46,580 --> 01:09:43,080 into the home and and take a deeper look 1392 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:46,590 at what's going on you know it just you 1393 01:09:51,710 --> 01:09:48,930 got to find out what it is and you know 1394 01:09:54,830 --> 01:09:51,720 if it is a faulty light switch or if 1395 01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:54,840 it's you know a broken step or if it's 1396 01:09:59,660 --> 01:09:57,720 you know it's some some some kind of 1397 01:10:01,190 --> 01:09:59,670 maybe there's maybe there's chemicals in 1398 01:10:04,220 --> 01:10:01,200 the house you know Steve and I went in 1399 01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:04,230 and did an extensive search on that on 1400 01:10:08,690 --> 01:10:07,140 the home and if we really want to find 1401 01:10:11,570 --> 01:10:08,700 out what's going on so we can bring that 1402 01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:11,580 piece to Alice you know that's the 1403 01:10:17,870 --> 01:10:14,100 number one goal and if we if we found 1404 01:10:19,370 --> 01:10:17,880 out I mean I'll tell you here Ryan you 1405 01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:19,380 know Steven I didn't know what we were 1406 01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,510 getting into we we started the 1407 01:10:25,670 --> 01:10:23,280 documentary and it was just kind of like 1408 01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:25,680 well you know we don't know Brad Alice 1409 01:10:30,980 --> 01:10:28,560 and John we have a good feeling about 1410 01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:30,990 them but you know we're gonna have to do 1411 01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,360 our homework once we get there and you 1412 01:10:37,130 --> 01:10:35,280 know we got the leash the first day of 1413 01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:37,140 filming you know we got their boots on 1414 01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:39,780 the ground even I had to do a sweep of 1415 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:41,340 the house to make sure you know there's 1416 01:10:45,290 --> 01:10:43,530 no funny business going on because 1417 01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:45,300 that's Steven eyes credibility here we 1418 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:47,460 are we're about to invest our time and 1419 01:10:52,730 --> 01:10:50,250 resources and efforts and you know 1420 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:52,740 no-sleep everything that goes into 1421 01:10:57,710 --> 01:10:55,170 filmmaking for the next few months if 1422 01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:57,720 not a year you know and we want to know 1423 01:11:01,240 --> 01:10:59,520 what's going on in the house and if that 1424 01:11:04,010 --> 01:11:01,250 is true we are going to tell that story 1425 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:04,020 so you know we did our sweep of the 1426 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:06,810 house and you are surprised there was no 1427 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:08,970 wires there was nothing going on there 1428 01:11:14,090 --> 01:11:12,330 was no you know obvious explanations for 1429 01:11:16,970 --> 01:11:14,100 some you know the multiple things going 1430 01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:16,980 on there so so you know it got Steve's 1431 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:20,190 Steve's stamp of approval so you know 1432 01:11:24,770 --> 01:11:22,770 and then you know I you know I I've been 1433 01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:24,780 alongside Steve for many many years so I 1434 01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:28,110 too have had that I and you know the 1435 01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,630 both of us kinda said holy cow you know 1436 01:11:35,260 --> 01:11:32,880 this is these guys aren't pulling the 1437 01:11:39,170 --> 01:11:35,270 wool over I so I guess we're we're gonna 1438 01:11:41,540 --> 01:11:39,180 you know try to you know try to figure 1439 01:11:43,340 --> 01:11:41,550 out this through through contractors and 1440 01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:43,350 through electricians anything that we 1441 01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:46,950 saw pop up and you know when we saw the 1442 01:11:51,890 --> 01:11:49,320 evidence if we're like well they could 1443 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:51,900 have done it with this so that's what we 1444 01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,330 implemented you know if if this happen 1445 01:12:00,320 --> 01:11:57,120 you know they say something happens in 1446 01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:00,330 the house well you know let's talk to 1447 01:12:05,090 --> 01:12:02,640 this person and see if there's a logical 1448 01:12:07,940 --> 01:12:05,100 explanation for it so we that's that's 1449 01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:07,950 the approach we took I mean I think a 1450 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:10,230 lot of ghost stuff and you know 1451 01:12:15,380 --> 01:12:12,530 paranormal stuff done so essentially 1452 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:15,390 sensationalized you know this is the 1453 01:12:21,260 --> 01:12:17,250 first time we really wanted to just kind 1454 01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:21,270 of say hey you know like let's just step 1455 01:12:25,820 --> 01:12:24,000 back here and and and think about this a 1456 01:12:29,210 --> 01:12:25,830 little more and think about this 1457 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:29,220 evidence and see see what it possibly 1458 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:31,650 could be from a different angle 1459 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:34,010 and you know what we we really kept the 1460 01:12:40,580 --> 01:12:36,690 skeptics in mind I mean myself I'm 1461 01:12:42,530 --> 01:12:40,590 skeptic I'm a skeptical believer I I 1462 01:12:45,770 --> 01:12:42,540 kind of call myself a skeptical believer 1463 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:45,780 I've had many experiences happen to me 1464 01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:48,090 now over the last few years so I'm more 1465 01:12:52,010 --> 01:12:50,160 on the believer side but Steve's still 1466 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:52,020 skeptic I mean he's pretty hardcore 1467 01:12:59,810 --> 01:12:56,810 skeptic and you know we we had a skeptic 1468 01:13:02,510 --> 01:12:59,820 editor a lot of our career sceptics so 1469 01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,520 you know we have to we have to to see 1470 01:13:07,210 --> 01:13:05,280 both sides as a documentary we're just 1471 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:07,220 telling the truth we just want to see 1472 01:13:12,590 --> 01:13:10,410 what the story is and in the story let 1473 01:13:15,050 --> 01:13:12,600 the story shine and you know we went in 1474 01:13:17,180 --> 01:13:15,060 there and and that's that was our goal 1475 01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:17,190 and all along so you have the skeptic 1476 01:13:21,620 --> 01:13:19,710 side and then you have the believer side 1477 01:13:25,010 --> 01:13:21,630 and you know we started out the whole 1478 01:13:28,010 --> 01:13:25,020 documentary with Miss Mary Alice who is 1479 01:13:30,590 --> 01:13:28,020 just the most beautiful soul asking her 1480 01:13:34,090 --> 01:13:30,600 if she believed in ghosts and you know 1481 01:13:37,790 --> 01:13:34,100 she uh she's she's awesome 1482 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:37,800 yeah they it's so cool that I believe it 1483 01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:40,410 was Steve there was kind of a kind of an 1484 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:42,960 off-camera yet filmed moment where you 1485 01:13:46,970 --> 01:13:44,850 kind of asked him straight up like what 1486 01:13:48,260 --> 01:13:46,980 do you think is going on and if you 1487 01:13:49,580 --> 01:13:48,270 don't mind me saying so he's like I 1488 01:13:51,230 --> 01:13:49,590 think it's a hell it's like you know 1489 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:51,240 let's get to the bottom of it it was so 1490 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:54,090 cool yeah oh that moment that we're 1491 01:14:03,140 --> 01:13:57,570 talking about is you know it was just so 1492 01:14:07,820 --> 01:14:03,150 raw and so just just amazing to see 1493 01:14:09,710 --> 01:14:07,830 Steve pop into his just detective 1494 01:14:11,630 --> 01:14:09,720 investigator I love that part that 1495 01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:11,640 you're talking about because that is 1496 01:14:18,350 --> 01:14:16,080 like just the Steve that that I've seen 1497 01:14:21,740 --> 01:14:18,360 for many years that you know sometimes 1498 01:14:24,140 --> 01:14:21,750 gets edited out of TV and it's just you 1499 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:24,150 see these you know the the gears 1500 01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:26,210 grinding like what that well was that 1501 01:14:31,340 --> 01:14:30,030 what happened there and and you know it 1502 01:14:33,650 --> 01:14:31,350 was really cool to see a thinking 1503 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:33,660 process and that's Steve that was Steven 1504 01:14:37,970 --> 01:14:35,730 the raw that was all of us in the raw it 1505 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:37,980 was it was just an awesome moment for 1506 01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:41,210 the film and for for me you know and 1507 01:14:47,690 --> 01:14:44,040 working with Brad and John and Alice and 1508 01:14:49,370 --> 01:14:47,700 and Steve it was just it was it was a 1509 01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:49,380 really cool moment there the whole film 1510 01:14:55,310 --> 01:14:53,430 was a lot of fun to do and yeah there's 1511 01:14:59,120 --> 01:14:55,320 a lot of a lot of moments like that too 1512 01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:59,130 that we had on camera that didn't get 1513 01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:01,760 used a lot of fun moments in the film 1514 01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,500 maybe we maybe we do another cut later 1515 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:06,960 or something to give some more of that 1516 01:15:14,090 --> 01:15:09,930 because because yeah it's just it's just 1517 01:15:16,060 --> 01:15:14,100 really cool to to document something and 1518 01:15:19,610 --> 01:15:16,070 be able to have the freedom to kind of 1519 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:19,620 kind of have AB moments and not worry 1520 01:15:24,110 --> 01:15:21,810 about a format and just you know 1521 01:15:26,330 --> 01:15:24,120 documentaries so freeing and creative 1522 01:15:31,580 --> 01:15:26,340 and and I you know I think that's 1523 01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:31,590 another success for us for this yeah the 1524 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:34,470 the lengths that you went like like you 1525 01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,930 mentioned you got scientists involved 1526 01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:38,400 you were looking at water aspects 1527 01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:39,870 underground moving water 1528 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:41,880 I mean marine dinosaurs found in the 1529 01:15:49,220 --> 01:15:44,010 area you definitely didn't leave it any 1530 01:15:52,190 --> 01:15:49,230 stones untouched perhaps there's more to 1531 01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:52,200 it and and an older lady without going 1532 01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:53,910 again I'm it's so hard not to give too 1533 01:15:56,570 --> 01:15:54,300 much away 1534 01:15:58,490 --> 01:15:56,580 she lived nearby she saw something 1535 01:16:01,220 --> 01:15:58,500 similar let's just say similar a light 1536 01:16:06,380 --> 01:16:01,230 that was bright as the Sun do you think 1537 01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:06,390 that personally obviously physics are 1538 01:16:12,170 --> 01:16:10,140 involved there's more to it and the 1539 01:16:14,750 --> 01:16:12,180 recreations that you did showed that 1540 01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:14,760 this is far beyond anything that humans 1541 01:16:21,940 --> 01:16:18,000 could do in my opinion the methods were 1542 01:16:25,340 --> 01:16:21,950 epic do you think that 1543 01:16:28,340 --> 01:16:25,350 these large deposits of possible energy 1544 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:28,350 or the past historical evidence with the 1545 01:16:32,690 --> 01:16:30,930 land could have more to do with all this 1546 01:16:35,420 --> 01:16:32,700 and everything else in your opinion I 1547 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:35,430 guess it's a hard question but what do 1548 01:16:44,620 --> 01:16:39,570 you personally think Kendall that's a 1549 01:16:49,340 --> 01:16:44,630 good that's a very good question um so 1550 01:16:52,010 --> 01:16:49,350 yes I got into the paranormal 15 years 1551 01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:52,020 ago and you know I answered a Craigslist 1552 01:16:59,300 --> 01:16:55,380 ad to ghost hunters and I got on the 1553 01:17:01,250 --> 01:16:59,310 show as a camera B and I've been working 1554 01:17:04,430 --> 01:17:01,260 on ghost owners for many many years ever 1555 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:04,440 since and a lot of these go shows and 1556 01:17:09,620 --> 01:17:07,770 when I started back then I thought okay 1557 01:17:12,290 --> 01:17:09,630 I can find I had an experience a long 1558 01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:12,300 time ago I can finally get answers to 1559 01:17:19,460 --> 01:17:15,240 what happened to me and you know some of 1560 01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,470 this ghost paranormal in everything you 1561 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:21,360 know maybe I can get a little bit of 1562 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:25,650 answers here no that is not the case and 1563 01:17:31,220 --> 01:17:28,290 along with this house it's opened up 1564 01:17:33,260 --> 01:17:31,230 more questions than I've gotten the 1565 01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:33,270 answers because what happens is you get 1566 01:17:40,970 --> 01:17:37,590 one thing that that you get a slight 1567 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:40,980 answer for and then clam okay there's 1568 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:43,170 another thing that just happened and now 1569 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:44,640 I got to go down this rabbit hole and 1570 01:17:50,570 --> 01:17:48,210 try to figure that out so for me 1571 01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:50,580 personally at this out there's so many 1572 01:18:00,320 --> 01:17:54,000 things going on there's so like so many 1573 01:18:03,980 --> 01:18:00,330 possibilities if I were to like step 1574 01:18:06,140 --> 01:18:03,990 back and look at it all I really think 1575 01:18:10,850 --> 01:18:06,150 that there's a possibility of 1576 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:10,860 multi-dimensional stuff happening at the 1577 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:14,610 house I think that it might be some kind 1578 01:18:23,930 --> 01:18:20,370 of you know intersection of some sort 1579 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:23,940 where things pass through come visit for 1580 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:26,130 a few and then leave because there's so 1581 01:18:31,949 --> 01:18:30,210 many different different personalities 1582 01:18:37,020 --> 01:18:31,959 happening there 1583 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:37,030 of stuff multi-dimensional I think there 1584 01:18:46,049 --> 01:18:40,449 might be some some haunting stuff I you 1585 01:18:48,929 --> 01:18:46,059 know it's hard to tell I mean it's you 1586 01:18:50,699 --> 01:18:48,939 know you're kind of dipping into what 1587 01:18:52,679 --> 01:18:50,709 are ghosts and where you know it 1588 01:18:55,529 --> 01:18:52,689 nobody's ever going to know really what 1589 01:19:00,209 --> 01:18:55,539 a ghost is you know are they demons are 1590 01:19:02,669 --> 01:19:00,219 they deceased relatives are they is you 1591 01:19:05,759 --> 01:19:02,679 know is it Lane is it the land you know 1592 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:05,769 is it elemental you know and they're you 1593 01:19:12,449 --> 01:19:08,650 could go down the list and try to figure 1594 01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:12,459 it out in my brain there's something 1595 01:19:19,290 --> 01:19:16,209 happening there it's there's there's 1596 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:19,300 stuff that's happening closer to the 1597 01:19:26,489 --> 01:19:22,050 experiences of people that have had 1598 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:26,499 Emily in in UFO encounters and there's 1599 01:19:32,429 --> 01:19:28,090 other ghostly stuff that I've 1600 01:19:35,219 --> 01:19:32,439 experienced on my my work with ghost 1601 01:19:37,169 --> 01:19:35,229 owners so I think yeah I think there's 1602 01:19:40,949 --> 01:19:37,179 there's two things maybe three things 1603 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:40,959 happening at the house and it might be 1604 01:19:46,949 --> 01:19:44,010 some kind of land I mean we found 1605 01:19:51,299 --> 01:19:46,959 information on the land you know there's 1606 01:19:54,689 --> 01:19:51,309 there's definitely stuff underneath the 1607 01:20:00,060 --> 01:19:54,699 house that that could be used as a 1608 01:20:02,339 --> 01:20:00,070 conduit you know we we you know Alice 1609 01:20:07,739 --> 01:20:02,349 isn't the only person experiencing stuff 1610 01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:07,749 in our area is this a hot spot yeah it 1611 01:20:12,779 --> 01:20:11,199 is a hot spot because in our research we 1612 01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:12,789 did I you know you can see it in the 1613 01:20:17,779 --> 01:20:15,249 film we we actually this is a little 1614 01:20:22,729 --> 01:20:17,789 like behind the scenes tip on that 1615 01:20:26,419 --> 01:20:22,739 criminal board that we used we I 1616 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:26,429 contacted MUFON and I got every single 1617 01:20:33,330 --> 01:20:29,530 UFO activity in that area and I put a 1618 01:20:35,929 --> 01:20:33,340 pushpin of all the UFO activity in 1619 01:20:40,649 --> 01:20:35,939 Mississippi and the surrounding area and 1620 01:20:43,229 --> 01:20:40,659 after at the visual of that was enough 1621 01:20:43,890 --> 01:20:43,239 to say okay this is this is a hot spot 1622 01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:43,900 for 1623 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:46,270 so yeah there's there's a lot of 1624 01:20:54,209 --> 01:20:50,290 possibilities I I like the idea of 1625 01:20:57,470 --> 01:20:54,219 multi-dimensional because it kind of 1626 01:21:01,860 --> 01:20:57,480 makes sense to me I mean what if there's 1627 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:01,870 there's a thin veil in certain areas 1628 01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:04,690 because of land elements or whatever 1629 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:07,449 whatever the energy is or you know what 1630 01:21:14,459 --> 01:21:11,290 if there's another parallel universe or 1631 01:21:17,939 --> 01:21:14,469 some other dimension that is kind of 1632 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:17,949 bleeding into ours in certain areas and 1633 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:21,730 maybe they can communicate with you the 1634 01:21:26,370 --> 01:21:23,770 you know the the evidence that we've 1635 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:26,380 gathered there that Brad and John have 1636 01:21:33,090 --> 01:21:29,890 obscene and gathered it's intelligent 1637 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:33,100 and John is clearly teaching the house 1638 01:21:39,090 --> 01:21:36,090 to speak back so what is the house 1639 01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:39,100 something intelligent I don't know but 1640 01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:41,260 it's it's produced and it produced it 1641 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:45,580 continues to produce and and it's just 1642 01:21:53,459 --> 01:21:49,330 fascinating to see it for your own 1643 01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:53,469 through your own eyes so yeah I mean 1644 01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:56,400 it's hard for me to pinpoint exactly 1645 01:22:01,229 --> 01:21:58,690 what I think is going on there because 1646 01:22:03,419 --> 01:22:01,239 there's you know the paranormal it's 1647 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:03,429 hard to even pinpoint anything you know 1648 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:07,330 I can't put my stamp on that but but my 1649 01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:10,050 gut tells me that it's possibly 1650 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:13,000 multi-dimensional it's possibly some 1651 01:22:18,330 --> 01:22:15,730 kind of energy happening at the house 1652 01:22:20,939 --> 01:22:18,340 and maybe that's spiking up you know 1653 01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:20,949 some of these some of these entities you 1654 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:22,840 know maybe there's a there's a 1655 01:22:29,180 --> 01:22:25,810 connection between the energy from a 1656 01:22:33,419 --> 01:22:29,190 multi-dimensional portal opening up to 1657 01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:33,429 possibly fueling manifestation of 1658 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:35,500 entities I don't know you know it's 1659 01:22:41,970 --> 01:22:38,170 awesome to think about and I think we 1660 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:41,980 need to get science involved closer to 1661 01:22:46,169 --> 01:22:44,170 be able to look at this and this is a 1662 01:22:50,669 --> 01:22:46,179 great house to study man I mean it's 1663 01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:50,679 being studied 24/7 it is it's just you 1664 01:22:57,689 --> 01:22:54,550 know it's just really a really great 1665 01:22:59,489 --> 01:22:57,699 controlled study and John and Brad 1666 01:23:01,739 --> 01:22:59,499 they're lucky to have it Alice turn the 1667 01:23:04,529 --> 01:23:01,749 keys over to them after she left the 1668 01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:04,539 house in 2011 and they've been studying 1669 01:23:08,879 --> 01:23:06,760 it ever since so so they're there 1670 01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:08,889 probably some of the only people I know 1671 01:23:17,759 --> 01:23:14,190 that that have a you know a frequently 1672 01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:17,769 highly act active house that they have 1673 01:23:23,089 --> 01:23:20,110 cameras on and you know devices and 1674 01:23:25,770 --> 01:23:23,099 everything studying in the house 24/7 1675 01:23:27,989 --> 01:23:25,780 yeah it's like having keys to like the 1676 01:23:32,459 --> 01:23:27,999 science the ongoing science project I'm 1677 01:23:34,859 --> 01:23:32,469 super jealous and the you know as far as 1678 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:34,869 the area being active I mean modern 1679 01:23:39,390 --> 01:23:37,090 physics is definitely involved but as 1680 01:23:41,759 --> 01:23:39,400 far as the area being active I mean heck 1681 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:41,769 you have Calvin Parker's appearance you 1682 01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:45,010 know that a lot of people forget is you 1683 01:23:48,959 --> 01:23:46,840 guys hit on so many so many things 1684 01:23:50,339 --> 01:23:48,969 saying almost fire all kinds of neat 1685 01:23:52,859 --> 01:23:50,349 things with ball lightning which i think 1686 01:23:55,319 --> 01:23:52,869 is you know definitely some electricity 1687 01:23:59,370 --> 01:23:55,329 discharging an odd possibly paranormal 1688 01:24:01,140 --> 01:23:59,380 ways but most of what we know and this 1689 01:24:02,939 --> 01:24:01,150 is mentioned in the film most of what we 1690 01:24:05,609 --> 01:24:02,949 know about modern physics can be 1691 01:24:08,810 --> 01:24:05,619 explained by other dimensions is the 1692 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:08,820 potential fer maybe even that 1693 01:24:18,449 --> 01:24:14,320 extraterrestrial element there yeah yeah 1694 01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:18,459 yeah I mean Alice Alice has had many 1695 01:24:26,939 --> 01:24:21,670 many experiences not just the one that 1696 01:24:29,250 --> 01:24:26,949 made her move out with lights and you 1697 01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:29,260 know we deep dive into the film so 1698 01:24:34,919 --> 01:24:32,110 definitely go see the film to see what 1699 01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:34,929 Alice is talking about these lights but 1700 01:24:41,370 --> 01:24:37,510 there's no there's there's a few things 1701 01:24:43,890 --> 01:24:41,380 happening at the house that go along 1702 01:24:46,169 --> 01:24:43,900 with some other people's experiences 1703 01:24:49,589 --> 01:24:46,179 with the UFOs and that's why we talked 1704 01:24:55,049 --> 01:24:49,599 to Calvin Parker who is a UFO sorry an 1705 01:24:58,500 --> 01:24:55,059 alien abductee and such a great his 1706 01:25:00,930 --> 01:24:58,510 experience was sort of similar to 1707 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:00,940 Alice's so you know we're trying to put 1708 01:25:04,770 --> 01:25:02,650 the pieces together of what's going on 1709 01:25:07,739 --> 01:25:04,780 in the house by talking to all these 1710 01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:07,749 people because you know it's it starts 1711 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:11,110 to sway on the side of some 1712 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:13,970 extraterrestrial some kind of 1713 01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:16,370 intelligent life-forms 1714 01:25:23,470 --> 01:25:20,480 I you know it this is complex it's just 1715 01:25:29,740 --> 01:25:23,480 it's a complex story it's a complex 1716 01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:29,750 situation and it really needs to be 1717 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:32,620 looked at by science because you know 1718 01:25:40,210 --> 01:25:37,130 it's so it's it's just so bizarre of 1719 01:25:40,980 --> 01:25:40,220 what has happened to Alice and in her 1720 01:25:45,190 --> 01:25:40,990 house 1721 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:45,200 and just looking at it from a science 1722 01:25:51,190 --> 01:25:48,650 perspective will help maybe unravel the 1723 01:25:53,770 --> 01:25:51,200 you know peel back the onion or some 1724 01:25:58,360 --> 01:25:53,780 kind of discovery that would be made and 1725 01:26:01,480 --> 01:25:58,370 in in in getting closer to to what those 1726 01:26:03,580 --> 01:26:01,490 lights are and that is you know that is 1727 01:26:06,850 --> 01:26:03,590 but that was that's the goal of the 1728 01:26:11,170 --> 01:26:06,860 documentary is to see what is it that's 1729 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:11,180 going on at Alice's home yeah there's a 1730 01:26:15,700 --> 01:26:12,530 lot going on there 1731 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:15,710 and there's you know the the modern 1732 01:26:21,610 --> 01:26:18,970 physics element and like you mentioned 1733 01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:21,620 we've been dancing around this elephant 1734 01:26:26,410 --> 01:26:23,360 in the room in a spacesuit or this 1735 01:26:28,510 --> 01:26:26,420 extraterrestrial aspect possibly and 1736 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:28,520 just when you're totally ready to engage 1737 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:32,090 with that particular aspect you guys 1738 01:26:37,090 --> 01:26:34,970 have a psychic with no idea of anything 1739 01:26:38,650 --> 01:26:37,100 which I thought was genius and I don't 1740 01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:38,660 want to give away too much but they just 1741 01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:40,580 invited somebody with no idea of 1742 01:26:44,020 --> 01:26:43,310 absolutely anything and where it went 1743 01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:44,030 from there 1744 01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:49,280 whoa so to be completely true with this 1745 01:26:56,140 --> 01:26:52,550 this is you know she found objects 1746 01:26:58,750 --> 01:26:56,150 leaning up anyway prior I guess they 1747 01:27:01,720 --> 01:26:58,760 call it pre cognitive intelligence could 1748 01:27:07,710 --> 01:27:01,730 be at work in this area or in this home 1749 01:27:09,970 --> 01:27:07,720 did you guys have any personal 1750 01:27:12,370 --> 01:27:09,980 experiences with any pre cognitive 1751 01:27:18,190 --> 01:27:12,380 intelligences like that psychic did when 1752 01:27:20,860 --> 01:27:18,200 she arrived at the house you know ah no 1753 01:27:22,330 --> 01:27:20,870 I didn't have anything happened to me 1754 01:27:23,860 --> 01:27:22,340 before 1755 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:23,870 I went to the house and 1756 01:27:27,940 --> 01:27:26,210 Steve I don't believe you he had 1757 01:27:32,530 --> 01:27:27,950 anything happened to him before we 1758 01:27:35,820 --> 01:27:32,540 stepped foot in the house yeah Jill 1759 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:35,830 Morris our psychic that we that we had 1760 01:27:44,770 --> 01:27:41,690 come to the house we I met her there and 1761 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:44,780 I my wife era we used to do a podcast a 1762 01:27:49,660 --> 01:27:46,850 long time ago and Jill 1763 01:27:51,670 --> 01:27:49,670 we met Jill through our podcast and she 1764 01:27:54,730 --> 01:27:51,680 was always somebody who stood out to me 1765 01:27:59,730 --> 01:27:54,740 as credible she does a lot of police 1766 01:28:04,480 --> 01:27:59,740 cases and unsolved criminal cases and 1767 01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:04,490 and so when the time came to that you 1768 01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:06,710 know Steve wasn't on board with a 1769 01:28:12,190 --> 01:28:09,110 psychic he's never been on board with 1770 01:28:16,150 --> 01:28:12,200 psychics but for this house we wanted to 1771 01:28:18,670 --> 01:28:16,160 kind of hit every angle and kind of you 1772 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:18,680 know see see what see what a psychic 1773 01:28:23,020 --> 01:28:20,930 would say because you know it you never 1774 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:23,030 know they might hit on something but we 1775 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:26,330 in the film you know we were kind of 1776 01:28:33,130 --> 01:28:28,130 like whoa let's challenge it you know if 1777 01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:33,140 somebody is going to pre-pre you know 1778 01:28:39,310 --> 01:28:36,260 pre-research the house and you know we 1779 01:28:42,370 --> 01:28:39,320 we sent somebody in that has knowledge 1780 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:42,380 of it pre coming in and then they're 1781 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:44,090 going to give us everything that we 1782 01:28:49,810 --> 01:28:48,050 we've you know they see online or you 1783 01:28:52,540 --> 01:28:49,820 know that they've heard about the house 1784 01:28:55,570 --> 01:28:52,550 so you know before the film we actually 1785 01:28:57,340 --> 01:28:55,580 had those guys take a lot of their stuff 1786 01:29:00,040 --> 01:28:57,350 down because we knew that we're gonna 1787 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:00,050 have people coming in and we didn't want 1788 01:29:04,060 --> 01:29:02,690 anybody to pre-research anything about 1789 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:04,070 the house we didn't we wanted people 1790 01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:06,890 coming in with with zero knowledge of 1791 01:29:11,740 --> 01:29:08,840 where they're going and that was that 1792 01:29:15,370 --> 01:29:11,750 was the case for our psychic Jill you 1793 01:29:19,900 --> 01:29:15,380 know I I called her in LA you know I I 1794 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:19,910 got asked do you mind flying to a place 1795 01:29:24,010 --> 01:29:21,410 that you're not going to know where 1796 01:29:26,260 --> 01:29:24,020 you're going and coming and doing the 1797 01:29:28,300 --> 01:29:26,270 shoot and not knowing anything about it 1798 01:29:30,910 --> 01:29:28,310 and you know she was so so great about 1799 01:29:33,820 --> 01:29:30,920 yeah I'm definitely down they got she 1800 01:29:36,220 --> 01:29:33,830 trusted us you know we're like you know 1801 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:36,230 put her on a plane to some random city 1802 01:29:40,150 --> 01:29:37,250 to 1803 01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:40,160 you know some random location that she 1804 01:29:45,070 --> 01:29:42,110 has nothing that you know knowing 1805 01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:45,080 nothing about and it was really neat to 1806 01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:48,800 see when she came in I mean we filmed 1807 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:52,610 for four hours with her and some of the 1808 01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:55,730 stuff that she picked up on was just it 1809 01:30:00,400 --> 01:29:58,250 was just amazing and it really added to 1810 01:30:02,860 --> 01:30:00,410 the documentary just to give that 1811 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:02,870 insight you know what does a psychic say 1812 01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:04,610 you know we have we have the 1813 01:30:09,730 --> 01:30:08,000 professionals on the scientific side and 1814 01:30:12,910 --> 01:30:09,740 and what does you know what does 1815 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:12,920 somebody with with extra you know 1816 01:30:19,150 --> 01:30:16,210 sensory somebody with a psychic ability 1817 01:30:21,580 --> 01:30:19,160 somebody that can tap into possibly the 1818 01:30:24,970 --> 01:30:21,590 other side what do they say so 1819 01:30:29,410 --> 01:30:24,980 everything you saw in the film with what 1820 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:29,420 she picked up on I mean I 150% can 1821 01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:33,410 promise you that was all real we never 1822 01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:36,080 gave her any kind of clues any kind of 1823 01:30:39,970 --> 01:30:37,760 information I mean he could see her face 1824 01:30:43,570 --> 01:30:39,980 when she's like I mean we just kind of 1825 01:30:45,790 --> 01:30:43,580 took her from the airport she landed she 1826 01:30:49,210 --> 01:30:45,800 got in a car our producer Paul picked 1827 01:30:51,130 --> 01:30:49,220 her up and and filmed her and she got to 1828 01:30:53,350 --> 01:30:51,140 the house I'm ready you know I'm waiting 1829 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:53,360 for her outside she gets out of the car 1830 01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:55,370 walks in the house he doesn't know 1831 01:30:58,720 --> 01:30:57,050 whether to ring the doorbell or not she 1832 01:31:00,610 --> 01:30:58,730 meets Alice for the first time I mean 1833 01:31:03,130 --> 01:31:00,620 that you just don't do that in 1834 01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:03,140 production it's just so you never know 1835 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:05,120 what's going to happen and that's kind 1836 01:31:08,410 --> 01:31:07,250 of how we took this the dock it was fly 1837 01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:08,420 by the seat of your pants 1838 01:31:13,330 --> 01:31:11,360 and that was kind of challenging you 1839 01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:13,340 know and and and it is really cool to 1840 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:18,170 see how that turned out and how well 1841 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:20,770 that turned out and it was really neat 1842 01:31:28,180 --> 01:31:24,410 that it ties in with the rest of the 1843 01:31:30,460 --> 01:31:28,190 story and really I mean this this house 1844 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:30,470 or this this energy gave it to us 1845 01:31:35,470 --> 01:31:32,090 because I mean the whole story just 1846 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:35,480 don't fold it for us really well yeah 1847 01:31:39,580 --> 01:31:37,010 it's almost like the house is almost 1848 01:31:41,740 --> 01:31:39,590 kind of telling it it's it's and I'm 1849 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:41,750 glad that you said that you know it was 1850 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:43,370 being taught to speak because it's kind 1851 01:31:47,590 --> 01:31:45,250 of true it's really telling a story and 1852 01:31:49,990 --> 01:31:47,600 the I mean Wow 1853 01:31:51,129 --> 01:31:50,000 without going into detail about her 1854 01:31:53,709 --> 01:31:51,139 arrival at the house 1855 01:31:56,350 --> 01:31:53,719 you guys have to see this this show it's 1856 01:31:57,609 --> 01:31:56,360 pretty amazing and one thing she did say 1857 01:32:00,459 --> 01:31:57,619 that I thought was interesting for a 1858 01:32:04,750 --> 01:32:00,469 psychic is that a lot of dimensions were 1859 01:32:07,179 --> 01:32:04,760 going on in the house oh my gosh and a 1860 01:32:08,799 --> 01:32:07,189 question I have to ask you know it was 1861 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:08,809 mentioned somewhere in the in the 1862 01:32:12,699 --> 01:32:11,090 documentary which is so in-depth and I 1863 01:32:14,379 --> 01:32:12,709 think that was so well handled and so 1864 01:32:18,009 --> 01:32:14,389 well managed bringing somebody who had 1865 01:32:19,659 --> 01:32:18,019 no idea of anything by the way but there 1866 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:19,669 were some questions being asked to that 1867 01:32:25,989 --> 01:32:23,570 individual and a different part and 1868 01:32:27,159 --> 01:32:25,999 there was a fire detector there were 1869 01:32:30,609 --> 01:32:27,169 some questions being asked about of 1870 01:32:33,419 --> 01:32:30,619 another fire and a fire a fire detector 1871 01:32:35,979 --> 01:32:33,429 went off in the home first time ever and 1872 01:32:37,779 --> 01:32:35,989 it was mentioned that these entities if 1873 01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:37,789 they could burn the house down they 1874 01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:40,489 could or they would I'm sorry if the if 1875 01:32:46,029 --> 01:32:41,840 they could burn the house down they 1876 01:32:47,799 --> 01:32:46,039 would with their it brings up some other 1877 01:32:50,469 --> 01:32:47,809 individuals a personal friend of mine 1878 01:32:53,379 --> 01:32:50,479 and myself who had things destroyed by 1879 01:32:54,850 --> 01:32:53,389 fire was this something that you had 1880 01:32:57,219 --> 01:32:54,860 heard before with or was this the first 1881 01:33:01,270 --> 01:32:57,229 time that you'd heard that kind of kind 1882 01:33:03,909 --> 01:33:01,280 of a comment yeah not that not to spoil 1883 01:33:05,979 --> 01:33:03,919 the film too much but but yeah what 1884 01:33:09,389 --> 01:33:05,989 would you what you're talking about 1885 01:33:12,429 --> 01:33:09,399 there that moment was the first for us 1886 01:33:15,250 --> 01:33:12,439 the study of the events that happened in 1887 01:33:17,949 --> 01:33:15,260 that moment have never happened before 1888 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:17,959 that and never in until this day have 1889 01:33:25,989 --> 01:33:23,449 not happened again I mean I check in 1890 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:25,999 with Brad John and Alice all the time 1891 01:33:30,909 --> 01:33:28,010 and they tell me you know what's 1892 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:30,919 happening in the house still and that 1893 01:33:39,609 --> 01:33:33,050 event still has not happened so that was 1894 01:33:43,149 --> 01:33:39,619 a one-off event at that time and you 1895 01:33:49,419 --> 01:33:43,159 know we we took it serious that is a 1896 01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:49,429 serious serious piece of knowledge or or 1897 01:33:58,209 --> 01:33:52,249 you know advice that the the psychic 1898 01:34:00,100 --> 01:33:58,219 Jill Morris had had given Alice and and 1899 01:34:04,660 --> 01:34:00,110 we took it we took it serious Alice 1900 01:34:10,530 --> 01:34:04,670 actually bought you know extra extra cam 1901 01:34:14,410 --> 01:34:10,540 and extra you know some some fire fire 1902 01:34:16,780 --> 01:34:14,420 prevention pieces for the home after 1903 01:34:19,900 --> 01:34:16,790 that because you know that's that's kind 1904 01:34:21,580 --> 01:34:19,910 of a big deal you eat somebody who tells 1905 01:34:22,810 --> 01:34:21,590 you they're they want to burn down your 1906 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:22,820 house because you kind of take that 1907 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:26,570 serious whether it's a ghost er or a 1908 01:34:30,820 --> 01:34:28,730 human you know anybody saying that 1909 01:34:36,150 --> 01:34:30,830 that's something that you really take 1910 01:34:40,810 --> 01:34:36,160 serious so yeah it's startling it was 1911 01:34:44,370 --> 01:34:40,820 very negative and that that that goes 1912 01:34:49,030 --> 01:34:44,380 along with the multiple things and 1913 01:34:51,250 --> 01:34:49,040 personalities coming through there you 1914 01:34:56,620 --> 01:34:51,260 know a lot of the stuff in the house is 1915 01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:56,630 is very very nice and and and what do I 1916 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:00,080 want to say just just very very caring 1917 01:35:05,260 --> 01:35:03,770 you know you get you get that but every 1918 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:05,270 once in a while you'll get you'll get 1919 01:35:11,380 --> 01:35:08,449 something that that that has a little 1920 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:11,390 negativity to it and and that's what the 1921 01:35:18,700 --> 01:35:13,850 medium sorry the psychic was picking up 1922 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:18,710 on so so well so well documented so well 1923 01:35:22,990 --> 01:35:21,410 made such an epic film and the footage 1924 01:35:25,150 --> 01:35:23,000 you guys I want to talk about it but I 1925 01:35:28,689 --> 01:35:25,160 just can't you have to see it it's stuff 1926 01:35:29,950 --> 01:35:28,699 that will blow your mind and I can't 1927 01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:29,960 thank you enough for coming on the 1928 01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:30,800 podcast 1929 01:35:34,510 --> 01:35:33,110 Kendall where can people keep up with 1930 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:34,520 what you're doing keep up with the 1931 01:35:38,530 --> 01:35:36,290 project purchase the movie I wouldn't 1932 01:35:43,030 --> 01:35:38,540 rent it I'd buy it and anything else you 1933 01:35:46,150 --> 01:35:43,040 have going on yeah so arm the movie is 1934 01:35:48,250 --> 01:35:46,160 available on 26 different video 1935 01:35:50,169 --> 01:35:48,260 on-demand platform so anywhere you can 1936 01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:50,179 Ray movies you can rent this you can 1937 01:35:55,959 --> 01:35:54,230 even rent this and in in video stores 1938 01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:55,969 believe it or not there's some video 1939 01:36:01,720 --> 01:35:57,770 stores still around you can get that 1940 01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:01,730 there you can get it on bestbuy.com but 1941 01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:03,679 the best place to get it and yeah you're 1942 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:05,810 right you should buy it because um you 1943 01:36:11,650 --> 01:36:08,330 know I've watched it many many times and 1944 01:36:12,939 --> 01:36:11,660 you know we made the movie it's 1945 01:36:15,610 --> 01:36:12,949 something that you're going to want to 1946 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:15,620 watch just over and over again to 1947 01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:18,170 actually see 1948 01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:20,480 different angles of it you know I'll 1949 01:36:25,419 --> 01:36:21,980 give you a little flip tip we left some 1950 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:25,429 stuff in there little cookies for you of 1951 01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:28,130 of what could be paranormal we don't 1952 01:36:33,939 --> 01:36:31,489 know in we left that in there for you so 1953 01:36:37,570 --> 01:36:33,949 so you might see that on a second watch 1954 01:36:40,689 --> 01:36:37,580 or a third watch so it's it's a fun 1955 01:36:46,090 --> 01:36:40,699 movie to watch and and yeah you can buy 1956 01:36:50,260 --> 01:36:46,100 that on iTunes you can get it on let's 1957 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:50,270 see here it's on iTunes it's on Google 1958 01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:55,610 Play it's on it's it's good on the house 1959 01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,250 in between calm that's the house in 1960 01:37:03,729 --> 01:37:00,560 between calm and we have all the links 1961 01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:03,739 and everywhere you can watch it and if 1962 01:37:09,729 --> 01:37:06,770 you're wanting to watch it overseas the 1963 01:37:12,970 --> 01:37:09,739 best place to catch that is on Vimeo the 1964 01:37:16,510 --> 01:37:12,980 Vimeo on demand spot there but thousand 1965 01:37:18,340 --> 01:37:16,520 between calm is the best place to to 1966 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:18,350 check it out and see where you can where 1967 01:37:23,379 --> 01:37:20,810 you can watch it and then also yeah sign 1968 01:37:25,930 --> 01:37:23,389 up because we will keep you involved in 1969 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:25,940 if you know we do a part two or you know 1970 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:27,650 we got some t-shirts and some apps and 1971 01:37:32,350 --> 01:37:30,170 stuff for sale in the store you know 1972 01:37:35,290 --> 01:37:32,360 it's a little community right now a lot 1973 01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:35,300 of people chiming in on our message 1974 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:37,130 board of what what's going on in the 1975 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:39,130 movie and stuff so it's it's from 1976 01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:41,330 Facebook you can you can follow the 1977 01:37:47,979 --> 01:37:44,560 house in between on Facebook Instagram 1978 01:37:51,879 --> 01:37:47,989 yeah so you can find us everywhere we're 1979 01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:51,889 out there the movie is there's a fun 1980 01:37:55,570 --> 01:37:54,110 watch I think you guys like it if you're 1981 01:37:58,600 --> 01:37:55,580 into the paranormal or even if you're 1982 01:38:01,120 --> 01:37:58,610 not in the paranormal it's it's a good 1983 01:38:02,979 --> 01:38:01,130 movie to to watch with even with your 1984 01:38:04,930 --> 01:38:02,989 family so you can that's a movie you can 1985 01:38:07,450 --> 01:38:04,940 watch with your watch your box with your 1986 01:38:11,020 --> 01:38:07,460 kids and in your your young ones and 1987 01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:11,030 stuff so um yeah and as far as future 1988 01:38:18,970 --> 01:38:15,409 projects my wife Farah Welton and I 1989 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:18,980 are working on some stuff that that is 1990 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:21,770 going to be fun and hopefully you know 1991 01:38:26,649 --> 01:38:23,449 right right now we're we're all on 1992 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:26,659 lockdown so you know once once we're 1993 01:38:31,330 --> 01:38:28,610 it's safe to go out and start working 1994 01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:31,340 again well we'll start working on these 1995 01:38:36,820 --> 01:38:33,920 future projects here so yeah I'd love to 1996 01:38:40,180 --> 01:38:36,830 give a shout out to Vera my wife she she 1997 01:38:43,060 --> 01:38:40,190 was my rock in helping make this film 1998 01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:43,070 she she's one of the producers on the 1999 01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:45,409 film and she just I mean she did such a 2000 01:38:51,700 --> 01:38:49,040 phenomenal job helping craft some of the 2001 01:38:55,390 --> 01:38:51,710 segments in the in the film and and she 2002 01:38:58,689 --> 01:38:55,400 she just she was such a such a major 2003 01:39:03,340 --> 01:38:58,699 force in this Steve just awesome 2004 01:39:05,979 --> 01:39:03,350 co-director with me Alice and and and 2005 01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:05,989 Brad and John just awesome people to 2006 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:09,199 work with just everybody that came into 2007 01:39:13,629 --> 01:39:10,730 the house for the film I love to give a 2008 01:39:17,290 --> 01:39:13,639 shout out to I it was just it's just 2009 01:39:18,930 --> 01:39:17,300 such a unique experience you know it was 2010 01:39:21,700 --> 01:39:18,940 amazing to work with all these different 2011 01:39:25,209 --> 01:39:21,710 people and and just have the kind of 2012 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:25,219 love and care that they gave us when we 2013 01:39:29,169 --> 01:39:27,050 came in I mean they they opened their 2014 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:29,179 hearts to us and they're in telling 2015 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:31,370 their story and that really made all the 2016 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:34,010 difference on camera so you know and and 2017 01:39:42,180 --> 01:39:37,730 and just there's so many people to thank 2018 01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:42,190 for this Corey frost our amazing editor 2019 01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:46,370 Joe Miller our sound designer yeah just 2020 01:39:51,220 --> 01:39:48,400 just so many people to thank and and 2021 01:39:53,110 --> 01:39:51,230 yeah go ahead and check out the film go 2022 01:39:57,459 --> 01:39:53,120 to our website the outs in between comm 2023 01:39:59,439 --> 01:39:57,469 and the the website is so cool because 2024 01:40:02,379 --> 01:39:59,449 like you said all the links are active 2025 01:40:03,580 --> 01:40:02,389 and swiftly we'll take you to however 2026 01:40:05,890 --> 01:40:03,590 you want to watch it anyway 2027 01:40:08,470 --> 01:40:05,900 I'm so glad you all did the project it's 2028 01:40:09,790 --> 01:40:08,480 amazing and I have to agree with you 2029 01:40:11,410 --> 01:40:09,800 your wife I think she did the 2030 01:40:15,729 --> 01:40:11,420 illustrations which were so cool oh 2031 01:40:18,820 --> 01:40:15,739 you're right she did yeah man I can't 2032 01:40:20,379 --> 01:40:18,830 wait to keep in touch with you and the 2033 01:40:20,979 --> 01:40:20,389 project and I can't thank you enough for 2034 01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:20,989 coming on 2035 01:40:25,780 --> 01:40:23,199 take care Kendall and talk soon I hope 2036 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:25,790 hey thanks Ryan I really appreciate it 2037 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:29,330 this was fun bye bye awesome 2038 01:40:34,910 --> 01:40:32,970 cool we're off yeah man that I thank you 2039 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:34,920 so much for coming on and now that I 2040 01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:36,570 have your contact info off to keep in 2041 01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:39,600 touch and chat more about stuff hey that 2042 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:41,280 sounds awesome man I love that that 2043 01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:45,530 you're into the multi-dimensional UFO 2044 01:40:48,730 --> 01:40:48,450 approach on on paranormal I appreciate 2045 01:40:53,570 --> 01:40:48,740 that 2046 01:40:55,340 --> 01:40:53,580 there's really not there's really not 2047 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:55,350 and we will I'll do my best to get this 2048 01:40:59,180 --> 01:40:56,610 out today and I'll shoot you a link 2049 01:41:00,800 --> 01:40:59,190 before I do so thanks hey awesome that 2050 01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:00,810 was a fun interview I really appreciate 2051 01:41:03,890 --> 01:41:02,400 it man you're a good interviewer thanks 2052 01:41:11,180 --> 01:41:03,900 i man have a great fourth of July 2053 01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:27,840 [Music] 2054 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:48,800 blast-off in my time machine 2055 01:41:59,979 --> 01:41:56,810 I feel like if I stop no blast-off code